Actually, it is Scriptural:
Yeh I know Honesty What I am saying is that the invitation seems so impersonal like follow the authority
does anyone else find find this title strange "the christ" is follow jesus to churchie for them?
they make such a big deal about using god's personal name jehovah but jesus he's "the christ" probably just me but it sounds weird like follow the title
Actually, it is Scriptural:
Yeh I know Honesty What I am saying is that the invitation seems so impersonal like follow the authority
does anyone else find find this title strange "the christ" is follow jesus to churchie for them?
they make such a big deal about using god's personal name jehovah but jesus he's "the christ" probably just me but it sounds weird like follow the title
Does anyone else find find this title strange "The Christ" Is follow Jesus to churchie for them? They make such a big deal about using God's personal name Jehovah but Jesus he's "The Christ" Probably just me but it sounds weird like follow the title
i know some elders want to be real shepherds in the biblical sense and are constantly challenged by wt directions that are cold unloving & self serving and many leave because of this.
such an elder who has his own conscience and is troubled by it does not make the best wt elder.
im looking to name the characteristics that make the best wt elders.
Good one open mind that is where I wanted to go And no its not your tequla more likely the gin and bitter lemon that I am drinking
i know some elders want to be real shepherds in the biblical sense and are constantly challenged by wt directions that are cold unloving & self serving and many leave because of this.
such an elder who has his own conscience and is troubled by it does not make the best wt elder.
im looking to name the characteristics that make the best wt elders.
I know some Elders want to be real shepherds in the biblical sense and are constantly challenged by WT directions that are cold unloving & self serving and many leave because of this. Such an Elder who has his own conscience and is troubled by it does not make the best WT elder. Im looking to name the characteristics that make the best WT Elders
Like this clasic Elder holding up a green book and declaring "This book is green but if the society said it was black I would say it sure does look green but if the society says it is black then it must be black"
Over to you
i always wondered about this when i was still a jw.
i just assumed that it was improper for a jw to eat any meat that wasn't thoroughly cooked, especially steak.
i though everyone could see that the red juice contained blood, which, if eaten, amounted to a violation of the prohibition against eating blood.
Yes it does if your straining out gnats and swallowing Camels. It is not about eating blood but respect for the giver of life You can kill an animal but you can't claim its life That belongs to God. So symbolicly( is that a word ) you achknowledge this by pouring it out on the ground. Blood represents life only when a life is taken that is one reason why the WT ban on transfusions is crap No one has to die to donate blood. If you make blood the focus like the WT does you come up with ridiculous sanctions like the one in a WT question from readers which banned the use of leeches in medical procedures because they eat blood.
anybody remember the 8 day 1969 international convention.
i was at the braves stadium in atlanta all 8 days with a sunburn and then wet clothes after the rain storms.
if you were there (not necessarily in atlanta) do you remember anything about it?
Melbourne Australia 21 years old What stuck in my mind was being told that Knorr and his crew were staying and eating at one of the most expensive motels in town. Would not have meant anything to me if it were not for the constant boast of the society that everyone at Bethel was treated the same and only got paid a few dollars ( forgot how many) per month Knorr included. Getting the same allowance means nothing when you have such a generous expense account
i married a jw convert.
looking back it was if she related to me and the kids like we were a duty like she was reading a scrip on how to relate to us.
like her love ( if you can call it that ) depended on how well we performed as witnesses.
Tough, Axeman. It sounds like your lady-love gave herself over entirely to the organization. So yes, you had a paper-wife, whose script and lines you could pull from the latest magazines.
Love the way you put that Ignat. What pisses me off is that despite knowing me personaly she chose to believe what the WT now said I was even looking for reasons to support the WT view. ie: Our son asked her why she split with me She said " I cant live with a man that bashes me " He asked "When did Dad bash you? She changed the subject. Now if she said that to a witness their response would be Oh you poor thing When I told my sister this her response was "But your not a violent man". It is as if she needed to find something anything to justify her WT view that I must be a bad person cause I have rejected their socalled truth. And it went real deep not only did the wife convince herself that I was a threat to her she started to act it out. One night when we were going to bed she said your not going to rape me are you. I thought where the hell did that come from.
To top it off all the time we have been seperated she has been hoping I will come to my senses and return to the witnesses cause her authentic self still had feelings for me I was a witness Was I really this crazy too?
i married a jw convert.
looking back it was if she related to me and the kids like we were a duty like she was reading a scrip on how to relate to us.
like her love ( if you can call it that ) depended on how well we performed as witnesses.
jgnat is right, the organization can never fully take over a person. The real person is allways there, trapped behind the cult personality that has been given to them.
I agree Drew but the real person can be buried so deep that for all practical purposes they are dead and your left relating to a WT clone
i married a jw convert.
looking back it was if she related to me and the kids like we were a duty like she was reading a scrip on how to relate to us.
like her love ( if you can call it that ) depended on how well we performed as witnesses.
I can tell when the JW personality has taken over. There's a black look in his eye and he looks at me with this disdain...what? That I am hopelessly pagan? That I am dead to him?
Know that experience. I convinced her to go with me to a marriage councillor he said to her you have cognative dissonance would not matter what I said she would find fault with it even if I spoke about the wheather He told her that only she could change that she did we left the session holding hands like a honeymoon couple but not for long the cult conditioning would kick in and I would get THE LOOK
We split years ago Ignat but it still bugs me My son completed his post grad recently I suggested we all go out for dinner to celebrate She said that would be nice she would like to do that but it is not possible. (My son is agnostic majored in physchology even considered doing his thesis on mind controll & the witnesses but didnt cause it would have alienated him from his mother) Like to but can't with me there what ! Have they got a gun to her head?
i married a jw convert.
looking back it was if she related to me and the kids like we were a duty like she was reading a scrip on how to relate to us.
like her love ( if you can call it that ) depended on how well we performed as witnesses.
I married a JW convert. Looking back it was if she related to me and the kids like we were a duty Like she was reading a scrip on how to relate to us. Like her love ( if you can call it that ) depended on how well we performed as witnesses. And she was hard on herself too Never felt good enough When she joined the Witnesses she said that "the brothers were all so good she could have married any one of them".Like I was just one from the heard of available bulls.The traditional marriage vows talk of forsaking all others Not my experience the elders the GB were in bed with us Does not lend itself to one flesh intimacy. Can anyone else relate to what I am saying?