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you still running around from thread to thread defending the wtbts? funny you never responded back to me the last time........really i didnt expect you to. you were proabably too busy on the phone with your neighbor still.
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Posts by dubla
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34Did Bethel Really let 900 rescue workers...
by Esmeralda in...stay in their facilities?.
my sister just called me, with the idea of 'comforting' me wt style (bad idea *lol*) i shut her down by saying "i respect that these are your religious views, but they are not mine.
" that managed to shut her up finally.. before that, though she volunteered this info, i was wondering if anyone can confirm it?.
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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER
by You Know inperhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
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Excellent Work JDUBLA! Touche!
ty utop, but im sure we will see yk ignore my post, as he does with all posts that make his ignorance evident. heres another quote from alanf that i think is worth repeating (and again, it was one that was completely ignored by yk).....
The point is that when fanatical religionists are expecting a great event, any event out of the ordinary is fodder for their prophecy mill. No matter if every detail of past predictions has fallen flat -- the basic prediction of "trouble" remains intact.
many make mention of yk's past performance (i think its 0 for something), and yet he can never bolster a reply. somehow he still manages to call everyone else "blustering bozos", while never admitting his own numerous failures in the prediction category. who is the real bozo?So it is with You Know. Every prediction he has made has failed. Until a few days ago he was predicting that the world economy would collapse on its own 'real soon now' due to a major economic event. Now we've had a major political event, and without batting an eye he has abandoned his old prediction and latched onto a new one, where now the economy won't collapse on its own but probably due to war or who knows what else?
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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER
by You Know inperhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
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yk and all-
almost always, statements can be twisted in order to achieve the desired accomplishment. in this case, yk has either twisted his own words, or as weve already noted, simply left his statements vague enough to claim his little october victory (finally, right yk? only took 5 chances or something?). i will post here some of yks statements, in chronological order, so that we can break down this "victory".......
the present financial system will be.....if not in a crash-down mode, then certainly in a state of war.
...if things collapse money may well become non-negotiable or hyperinflation could render $100 equivalent to about 2 cents in a matter of days.
Some of you may wonder what the connection is between a dollar meltdown and the teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses........At some point the almighty dollar will have to bow before the Almighty Jehovah
okay, quick break here to summarize......so far weve seen mention of the financial system being in crash-down mode, or in a state of war, (note here, that the "financial system" would be in a state of war, NOT the u.s. system as he is now claiming was the meaning of his words). we also have here this talk of the "dollar meltdown" and the "almighty dollar" becoming "non-negotiable." people, hes already set the parameters.....the dollar will crash, its plainly stated in his first post. (of course, the u.s. being in a state of war supercedes all these other predictions, and victory is claimed by yk).more quotes....
It is definitely going to get interesting when and if the markets open...
oh, but yk, the markets are just a "side-show" that doesnt interest you, remember?? lets quote that one too, just for memorys sake...The stock market is just a small part of the financial system. It's only a sideshow and I have no interest in that.
but yk, for a "sideshow" that you have "no interest" in, you sure do mention the market a lot with your predictions......The NY TIMES stated that is was every American's patriotic duty, come Monday, to go out and buy as much stock as you can afford. That's because the financial system is now in a crash-down mode and they are in a panic to hold it together.
hmmm, more talk of this "side-show", namely, the stock market. well, you have no interest in it, and its just a "small part" of the financial picture, but id say you know as well as the rest of us do, that the market IS the financial picture, not just a small part, and thats why you mention it so many times in your posts on this thread. the fact is, everything is gauged on how the markets perform, becuase so much of americas wealth is wrapped up in THE MARKETS. no, they are not a "side-show", they are a clear indicator of the financial system. why does the fed cut rates and supply liquidity to the banks? to stimulate THE MARKET. what moves the numbers up and down on the vast majority of american citizens 401k statements? THE MARKET. what would absolutely HAVE to COMPLETELY collapse before we would ever have a "dollar meltdown"? THE MARKET. yes indeed, the market is the indicator, and as we speak, we are having a market correction (the dow is down about 5%, monday morning), which is exactly what was expected following this sudden disaster that hit new york. in order for yk to be correct in his predictions though, the market will have to continue to fall....in fact, the market would certainly have to COMPLETELY crash in order for us to get a "dollar meltdown", and even then it wouldnt be a given. the u.s. economy has lived through several market crashes and many recessions, and has recovered every single time, just as it will this time. if anyone is unaware of past market conditions and reactions to sudden disasters, please see my previous post. we are getting exactly what was predicted by all the economic anaylists, a 5-10% drop today and throughout this week, and then stablization.youknow was predicting disaster for the market (notice he hinted that it may not even open), and then he no doubt backed off from that stance when he realized the markets would in fact stabilize after a correction,(probably watching cnbc), and he then deemed the markets nothing more than a "side-show" that really has little impact on the financial system (its only a "small part"). a "prophet" backtracking, what a surprise (see history of c.t. russell).
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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER
by You Know inperhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
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. But, it should be obvious to any but the most perverse haters of truth that the world fundamentally changed September 11th 2001. No sane person can deny that.
i dont think anyone is denying that. the world fundamentally changed with ww1, ww2, vietnam, etc., etc. no one denies any of these either.
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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER
by You Know inperhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
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You are backing out of the bet. You never did define the word "crash". If the stock market is not the measure for you, then what is? Please define your terms.
larc, yk is already claiming "victory" which is why he will not name parameters (besides, he knows parameters would allow for his predictions possibly being wrong). he was vague enough in his first post to claim victory for himself already now. you see, the fact that the fed is pouring money into the banks proves his "financial crash." preposterous, yes i agree, but its his way.
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Biblical PROOF that Jesus Christ IS GOD
by Bibleboy inbefore i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.
if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.
thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.
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bibleboy-
in the "nit-picking" dept.....
and jdubla, go take English 101 again. You obviously miss the point if you have to nit-pick all the time.
you are telling ME to go take english 101 again, and then you follow this statement up by a grammatically incorrect sentence. let me help you bibleboy.....here's a quick lesson from english 101 (maybe we should go take it again together.).......
"you obviously miss the point....." this is incorrect. you should say either "you have obviously missed the point..." or "you are obviously missing the point....." or "you obviously missed the point...." -any of these would be grammatically correct, but yours is not. simple english 101 i guess. you continue to make your ignorance known to all.
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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER
by You Know inperhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
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Like any prophet, you made your statement purposely vague.
excellent statement....couldn't have said it better myself.
Such quantification is a very simple matter. Why won't you do it?
because he is smart enough to know that this would open him up to being wrong. if he is vague enough, he can claim victory. hell, if the markets slide 10% next week, he'll no doubt be gloating. what he doesnt realize is that once we're at war, this will only help the economy and the markets. in fact, the cleanup alone of the ny disaster will bolster certain sectors of the markets, and we will no doubt get a huge rally, even if the markets do dip next week. i went back to three different periods where unforecastable events rocked the markets. below is the initial reaction to these events and subsequent behavior by the markets.1. pearl harbor
-the DJI was at approx. 117 in december 1941. it fell to 93 by early may 1942, a 20% drop....it then rallied to 145 by july 1943.
2. cuban missile crisis
-in august 1962, the DJI was at 615. if fell to 550 in october and rose to 650 in december and 767 by december 1963. the drop phase was only 10.5%.
3. jfk assassination
-the market fell some 20 points in 20 minutes before they shut down the market. when the markets reopened under lbj, the DJI went from 712 to 825 by april 1964 and 891 by november 1964.
......oh YK, i know, this time will be different. history never repeats itself does it? i've only joined the forum recently, but from what i've heard, it appears that you repeat yourself once a year, and you will again have to slither back this november when the "almighty dollar" is indeed still worth something.
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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER
by You Know inperhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
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It means that you are too stupid to realize that you have already lost the wager. / You Know
as i thought, yk is backing down. he will not agree to the wager at this point, so he instead claims that all bets are off because he has "already (won) the wager". a cowardly but predictable approach.
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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER
by You Know inperhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.
as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.
since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.
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There is of course no possible way for such arrogant lunatic morons, such as yourself, to acknowledge the truth. That's why Jehovah is going to have to send in his executioner to bring you face-to-face with the reality that you perversely and steadfastly deny. Yes, it is going to be unpleasant, but that's what it has come down to. We are now in the preliminary process of bringing in the Executioner to take care of the necessary business at hand. More later, much more / You Know
-um, i accepted your bet, and asked for the parameters........and all i get back is more preaching. does this mean you are backing out of the wager that YOU initiated? (didnt take long for him to renege, did it people?)aa
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WTC Charity: A Blown Opportunity by WTS
by Room 215 inapart from the noble imperatives of christian charity, the society's rather tepid response to the need for emergency assistance in the aftermath of the wtc tragedy across the harbor illustrates how calcified the thinking of their leadsership has become.. i know, they've accepted a few overnight jw guests and accommodated some others, but when measured against the magnitude of their resources, these meager photo-op and pr-op gestures are tiny.. by failing to sieze the moment, they blew a priceless opportunity to cut a a firebreak across what they must know will be a maelstrom of publice outrage and criticism when the dateline story runs.
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If we are wrong, you can report back to us as to how they are contributing. Speaking for myself, I would be glad to hear that the Society is helping in immediate relief efforts in some meaningful fashion.
-yes zazu, i had made almost the exact same statement to nytel. when i repeated it though, i was told to f**k off. indeed a curious response from a member of such a loving brotherhood.
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