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  Are You In Support Of Starting A War In Iraq ?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  it looks inevitable.

  do you think this is more a carry over from president pappy bush's not getting the job done while he was in office?

  do you think the usa and it's allies can fight multiple wars??

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  pleasure-

  well, i asked you in your opinion what wouldve been a better way to deal with al qaeda, and you answered "assasination", so i just assumed that you favored it. obviously you believe we shouldnt be dealing with al qaeda at all then?

  and why no answer when i asked for proof of the hijackers that are alive and well? i can provide proof that terrorists hijacked those planes, but my proof would only be the same proof the rest of the world has, and you have already stated you believe that to be false, so im not sure i could bring anything new to the table. i would be very interested in the proof you have though....or are you just being fed this crap from a conspiracy theory website? is there any backing to it, or are you just spouting off?

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  France is a "Pain in the Ass"

  by JH in

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  i changed my topic to this:.

  why does france always go against britain and us policies?

  should we still consider france as an ally?

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  xander-

  Indeed, and if 'led by a genocidal madman' is a good reason to go to war with someone for being a threat, well don't you think North Korea is a BIGGER threat? Or, China? Or, hell, pretty much ALL of middle Africa? And while you're at it, Israel and the rest of the Middle East?

  i said that made him a threat, not that it was a sole reason to go to war......your word twisting abilities are impressive. yes north korea is a threat, and im sure one we will deal with in time. look, the u.n. inspectors wouldnt be in iraq if the world didnt consider saddam one of the first priorities right now. who knows, maybe we will be having this conversation about china at some point. you screaming about all these other countries that fall into some of the same categories as iraq doesnt make iraq any less of a threat.

  . Because it looked like you were coming off in defense of a war with Iraq that DOES look like it will be 'by spring', or, at least, this year.

  since we are getting down to it, and ive never really said what my views on immediate war are, here you go. am i in defense of war with iraq? yes. do i think it needs to be rushed? no..........but in the end, if saddam is taken out of power, regardless of the means, itll be a good thing imo.

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  Edited by - dubla on 24 January 2003 13:18:46
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  Are You In Support Of Starting A War In Iraq ?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it looks inevitable.

  do you think this is more a carry over from president pappy bush's not getting the job done while he was in office?

  do you think the usa and it's allies can fight multiple wars??

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  pleasure-

  if youre not in favor of any military action, then you cannot be in favor of assasination, and you previously claimed assasination would be the route to go, not war.

  as for 9/11......the fact that youve bought into the conspiracy theories explains alot. at least now i know what im dealing with in this discussion....someone who believes that some of the hijackers survived the crashes. well, since you are asking for proof that terrorists hijacked those planes, would you mind providing some proof that "some of them turned up alive and well"?

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  Edited by - dubla on 24 January 2003 13:17:37
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  France is a "Pain in the Ass"

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i changed my topic to this:.

  why does france always go against britain and us policies?

  should we still consider france as an ally?

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  xander-

  I'm sorry

  you should be for continually implying something that isnt even there.

  You used this in defense of a war on Iraq.

  not solely, no i didnt. i used it as a defense of action agains state-sponsored terrorism, EVERYWHERE, not just iraq. here, ill re-post my quote, in its entirety, so that you can see this.

  whether you like it or not, the u.s. will pursue terrorism everywhere. i agree with it, you obviously do not. for me personally, the argument of "the u.s. is just as guilty" makes no sense whatsoever. so, since weve been guilty of supporting terrorism in the past, we should just sit back and let terrorists bomb our nation?

  hopefully you see the difference this time, as i didnt even specify iraq in that quote as you seem to think i did.

  If attacking Iraq is necessary, otherwise we will be letting 'terrorists bomb our nation'

  i think going after terrorism is necessary, otherwise we will be sitting back and waiting for them to "bomb our nation", yes. do i think attacking iraq immediately is necessary to prevent them from bombing us? no i dont (once again).

  then obviously you must think Iraq plans to attack the US at some point?

  i think its quite possible that saddam will at some point aid an attack against the u.s.....perhaps on our soil, perhaps not....perhaps directly, perhaps indirectly. do i think he is a threat? of course i do....and i think im probably not the only one that believes that.

  Unless by attacking Iraq, you are confident that we will terrify terrorists everywhere into not 'bombing our nation' anymore?

  no, its not all about deterrence. i do think the more we go after terrorists everywhere, the harder it will be for them to attack us though, which is what i was intending to imply all along.

  The only other meaning that can be implied is that YOU feel Iraq is a DIRECT THREAT to the US

  i think iraq is a threat to alot of countries, including the u.s.....simply because they are lead by a genocidal madman. if by "direct threat" you mean immediate, as in we need to take care of this by spring or else, no i dont believe that.

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  France is a "Pain in the Ass"

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i changed my topic to this:.

  why does france always go against britain and us policies?

  should we still consider france as an ally?

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  xander-

  Where THE HELL do you get this idea? I never said this, I never implied this.

  what you implied, is that state-sponsored terrorism is not a legitimate reason to go after any other country, because the u.s. is guilty of it too. i believe the u.s. will go after the countries that support terrorism, all of them, and i agree with it....you do not. thats all i was saying.

  YOU are assuming if we don't attack Iraq "NOW, NOW, NOW" then tomorrow he's going to be blowing up US cities.

  actually i dont assume that at all, and if you re-read my posts on the subject, youll see that i have never even implied such a thing. do i think its of utmost importance to start a war with iraq this month, or next? no i dont.

  Why is this so hard for you to get through your head?

  its not, its quite simple, and all youve been doing is regurgitating your same screaming rants over and over. i get your side of it....just because i dont agree with everything you say doesnt mean youre not entitled to your opinion, as i am entitled to mine, and i respect that.

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  Are You In Support Of Starting A War In Iraq ?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it looks inevitable.

  do you think this is more a carry over from president pappy bush's not getting the job done while he was in office?

  do you think the usa and it's allies can fight multiple wars??

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  dubla

  pleasure-

  so you are in favor of military action, just not war?

  as for the taliban? what difference is there between them, north korea, burma, robert mugabe, and such like?

  if there are al qaeda training camps found in north korea (or anywhere else for that matter), specifically made for training men to hijack commercial air planes and fly them into large buildings....im sure there will be action against them too. its pretty simple really. the taliban helped train and financially supported the terrorists invovled in 9/11.

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  Are You In Support Of Starting A War In Iraq ?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it looks inevitable.

  do you think this is more a carry over from president pappy bush's not getting the job done while he was in office?

  do you think the usa and it's allies can fight multiple wars??

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  pleasuredome-

  you say you dont support any war....and you are obviously not alone on this board. im just curious....what in your opinion would have been a better way to deal with al qaeda/the taliban?

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  Are You In Support Of Starting A War In Iraq ?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it looks inevitable.

  do you think this is more a carry over from president pappy bush's not getting the job done while he was in office?

  do you think the usa and it's allies can fight multiple wars??

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  dubla

  There are those that will never support military action and those that favor it. No one will switch sides and it doesn't matter a hoot what we think about it. Wheels have been put in motion and we are moving towards war.

  this sums up my thoughts perfectly.

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  France is a "Pain in the Ass"

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i changed my topic to this:.

  why does france always go against britain and us policies?

  should we still consider france as an ally?

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  dubla

  xander-

  My point, that you obviously don't want to address, is that the US has supported just as much terrorism as Iraq has, and neither nation had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks.

  So, if your justification for war is "They need to have had something to do with 9/11", well, sorry, that's not Iraq. If, on the other hand, your justification for war is "They support terrorism"....oops, your own government is just as guilty.

  whether you like it or not, the u.s. will pursue terrorism everywhere. i agree with it, you obviously do not. for me personally, the argument of "the u.s. is just as guilty" makes no sense whatsoever. so, since weve been guilty of supporting terrorism in the past, we should just sit back and let terrorists bomb our nation? yeah, i guess weve got it coming to us, so why protect ourselves at this point? good argument......maybe you should go to the press with it and see what kind of support you can drum up.

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  Edited by - dubla on 24 January 2003 10:15:10
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  Rain of Fire

  by Defender in

  1. jw
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  watch how us forces aboard ac130 gunship night raid in afghanistan targeted fleeing unarmed "personnel".

  watch the rain of fire as little bright running objects were targeted and killed one by one.

  watch how they were finished off, if after being hit, they were still "moving".

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  what a horrible movie....it had potential until they headed for london to find the only male dragon....then it just sank.

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