dubla

Joined

• started 31 topics
• posted 2,222 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by dubla

• 
  28

  Will Saddam get caught?

  by JH in

  1. social
  2. current

  .

  now they don't know if saddam is still in baghdad or if he fled out of iraq.

  do you think that saddam will be as hard to catch as bin ladden?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  realist-
  

  i realize weve discussed this ad naseum, so ill be brief in my reply to the bulk of your post, and please dont feel you have to respond to this again.......i will simply repeat myself one more time in saying that there would be absolutely no need for negotiations beyond what was offered, as hussein was adamant about not leaving EVER for ANY deal whatsoever. further talks, in private as you say they should be, would be completely laughable under these circumstances. i suspect you privately know this to be true, regardless of your reluctance to admit it publicly. but, you have your opinion on the matter, and its yours alone.....no one else who knows a lick about hussein would expect these token and useless proceedings as you do.

  i would like to respond to this, and get a reply if you have the time.......
  

  whether these negotiations failed (if they took place) because hussein is dense or because the US did not provide sufficient guarantees can only be speculated. since the US most likely wants to control iraq the latter seems more reasonable however imo.

  i commented on this idea in a previous post and specifically asked for a reply. basically, your logic here is completely baffling to me, and i have a hard time understanding how you even buy into it. if saddam and the regime were to step down, and leave the country, we would have control! we would march into the country with little or no fighting, and begin to set up an interim government. why would we need him dead at that point? wed have the oil, if thats what we are after.....what else would we need (according to you)?

  aa

  p.s. bttt stands for "back to the top"
• 
  39

  Did this happen by itself?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when you look at this picture of the universe, how do you think this came about?

  do you think that there is a creator afterall?

  for those who like astronomy and nice pictures taken by hubble telescope and other telescopes check this out.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  would an almighty creator who was capable of all things let THIS occur and continue?

  sure. one reasonable explanation for this would be that the universe and everything in it is one big experiment, left to run its course.

  aa
• 
  148

  'You didn't fire a warning shot soon enough!'

  by William Penwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a journalist's account of the killing of a car full of iraqi civilians by us soldiers differs widely from the official military version, says brian whitaker .

  tuesday april 1, 2003 .

  the invasion forces suffered another self-inflicted disaster in the battle for hearts and minds yesterday when soldiers from the us 3rd infantry division shot dead iraqi seven women and children.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  How would you feel if some foreign country was invading your home land? Wouldn't you fight to the death to?

  not if i was basically being forced to fight for a murderous dictator, no. you cant compare our homeland with the homeland of the iraqis.....apples and oranges.

  aa
• 
  49

  No Evidence Against Iraq, You Say?

  by DakotaRed in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/interviews/khodada.html.

  http://www.observer.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,591439,00.html.

  http://www.caabu.org/campaigns/iraqi-exiles-letter.html.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  lets all hope and pray that the regime doesnt use chemical weapons on coalition forces as a last resort.

  Rodgers said that the squadron passed a number of burned-out Iraqi vehicles, including outdated, Soviet-era Iraqi tanks and armed pickup trucks and that the bodies of dead Iraqi soldiers dotted the landscape.

  "What we noticed was all the dead Iraqi soldiers had gas masks, as if they are indeed preparing for chemical attack," Rodgers said.

  http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/03/sprj.irq.war.main/index.html

  aa
• 
  28

  Will Saddam get caught?

  by JH in

  1. social
  2. current

  .

  now they don't know if saddam is still in baghdad or if he fled out of iraq.

  do you think that saddam will be as hard to catch as bin ladden?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  bttt for realist

  aa
• 
  27

  TERRORISTS THANK AMERICAN PROTESTERS

  by DakotaRed in

  1. social
  2. humour

  terrorists thank american protesters

  by: benedict arnett with special arrangement of al jerksrah news service.

  wednesday 02 april 2003

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  along these same lines.............

  Oregon Law Would Jail War Protesters as Terrorists

  Wed Apr 2, 9:01 PM ET

  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030403/ts_nm/life_protests_dc_1

  aa
• 
  29

  "They take you in there and you never come out."

  by expatbrit in

  1. social
  2. current

  some have stayed in solitary confinement for long periods of time.

  he was taken back to the prison.

  they are reported to be still detained at the general intelligence prison in basra.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  h.s.-
  

  thanks, and i echo rems sentiment regarding your views on the topic. thank goodness there are some left on the board that can rationally discuss an emotional topic like war, agreeing on some points and disagreeing on others....if only all of your counterparts on the "antiwar" side could recognize valid points while still backing their own stance.....sadly most cant (true of posters on both sides).

  you have very justified concerns re: post-war iraq, and i share them with you. youll notice i used the word "hope" when i spoke of the post-conflict middle east...and thats all it is....again, maybe too much wishful thinking on my part. this could end up getting a whole lot worse before it ever gets better, and i too fear it will.

  aa
• 
  148

  'You didn't fire a warning shot soon enough!'

  by William Penwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a journalist's account of the killing of a car full of iraqi civilians by us soldiers differs widely from the official military version, says brian whitaker .

  tuesday april 1, 2003 .

  the invasion forces suffered another self-inflicted disaster in the battle for hearts and minds yesterday when soldiers from the us 3rd infantry division shot dead iraqi seven women and children.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  I make no claim to be religious of any kind

  me either, just to add my personal two cents to your query. sorry i cant explain for you how the christian fundamentalists think about war.

  aa
• 
  148

  'You didn't fire a warning shot soon enough!'

  by William Penwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a journalist's account of the killing of a car full of iraqi civilians by us soldiers differs widely from the official military version, says brian whitaker .

  tuesday april 1, 2003 .

  the invasion forces suffered another self-inflicted disaster in the battle for hearts and minds yesterday when soldiers from the us 3rd infantry division shot dead iraqi seven women and children.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  Really? Show proof of any innocent people getting shot at road blocks, by police.

  i can produce proof of innocent people getting shot by police....on "accident", which is the real topic here, not a roadblock, and i think youre intelligent enough to understand that..?.

  aa
• 
  39

  Did this happen by itself?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when you look at this picture of the universe, how do you think this came about?

  do you think that there is a creator afterall?

  for those who like astronomy and nice pictures taken by hubble telescope and other telescopes check this out.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dubla

  funky-

  yes ive heard all the fairy tale type jokes and sarcastic responses whenever someone suggests creation, and they are indeed funny. no one can prove there is a creator, and no one can prove there isnt one, so it really becomes a pointless argument, and the creation side relies largely on faith which the other side discounts as preposterous. i have no problem with any of that, and personally i think the whole debate becomes laughable most of the time. the only reason i chimed in with that comment............simon was remarking on how beautiful symmetry can be "created" by natural processes, giving the example of the snowflake.....and a creationist will simply reply that a creator designed the exact conditions to make every snowflake unique and beautiful. basically, simons example takes nothing away from the original argument/suggestion on this thread, thats all.

  aa