Posts by dubla

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

yk said:

What has changed in that situation? The answer is...nothing.

this is complete nonsense. just because there are still troops on both sides protecting their borders does not mean "nothing" has changed. there are still possibilities of future conflict between the two nations (there proabably will be for years to come considering the dispute has lasted decades), no one is denying that, but plenty has changed "in that situation" as of late.

first off, india withdrew its naval forces from pakistani waters, and opened up its airspace to pakistani commercial aircraft, reported as of june 17th >>> http://asia.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/06/17/india.pakistan/index.html

as of june 17th, india had also ruled out the immediate possibility of war with pakistan, and indicated that there was no "perceivable" tension along the line of control. at that time though, india was still ruling out dialouge with pakistan over the disputed kashmir state due to the continued cross-border terrorism taking place. since then, even more has changed.

as of june 18th, pakistan had moved its "extra" troops from the indian border back to the afghan border.........on june 20th, the indian defense minister reported that cross-border terrorism had decreased considerably, saying it had "almost ended", and as of june 28th, indian prime minister vajpayee had again entirely ruled out the possibility of war with pakistan and had for the first time opened up the possibility of talks with pakistan over the disputed state of kashmir. talks over the disputed state had previously been ruled out since july of 2001.

for someone to say that "nothing" has changed "in that situation" just shows complete and utter ignorance (or an obvious attempt at deceit).

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Edited by - dubla on 16 July 2002 11:5:40

155

WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

yk-

That's pretty stupid. Are you meaning to imply that when all men become faint out of fear that you won't have anything to worry about?

ill have plenty to worry about im sure, but i do know someone who lives off the land up in the nw, and im quite sure hed welcome me in with open arms. i think hes probably got a few years worth of ammunition and supplies saved up, so it wouldnt be the end of his existance if the financial system crashed. of course, it would be a big adjustment living in the mountains, but at least i wouldnt have to spend so much on dry cleaning every week.

Ask yourself this, if you knew for certain that it was the end of the line would you live your life any differently?

yes i would, and i agree that most sane people probably would. the point is that we dont know for certain that this is the end of the line.....and you think you do know for certain. many witnesses thought they knew for certain that 1975 was going to be the end of the line, and they sure lived their life differently, didnt they? did it pay off? who benefited more, the ones that sold their houses and quit their jobs, or the disbelievers that moved ahead with new promotions?

As far as people reading my posts, over the years I would imagine that it has amounted to several thousand. My posts seem to generate as much interest as any. You certainly seem to spend a good bit of time reading my "blubberings." LOL

plenty of people, myself included, read your posts...no doubt. i was referring to the "target audience" that you speak of. has that "target audience" now changed to include all of us?

as far as me reading your blubberings, sure i do. i also enjoy good fiction.....surely you know this by your constant references to the spiderman comics i read growing up. unfortunately for you, generating interest has little to do with being factual, or even important. speaking of the web-crawler, did you see the interest spiderman the movie garnered in its first week? the three-headed unicorn usually generates quite a bit of interest at the circus too.

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Edited by - dubla on 15 July 2002 15:23:27

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

yk-

dont worry about little ol me, i dont feel neglected......i just thought it was interesting that you taunted me to reply, and then dissapeared only to return and respond to a poster that wasnt even discussing the thread topic.

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

yk-

i thought you were done with this thread.....

In closing out this thread, and in answer to your question,

perhaps you just meant you were finished talking with me on this thread.?. and if thats the case, then why this comment in apparent anticipation of my response?:

Dubula must be away from his computer today? / You Know

so, you basically ask me for a response, but then deem my response unworthy of further discourse on your part? just wondering, as you did claim to be "closing out this thread", yet here you are again.

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Lots of Jehovah Bashing in Here

by Perfection Seeker in

i think when people leave the organization, they lump it all together- jehovah- religion, organization, etc.

i am not doubtful there is a god, but just doubtful that he used the wts to be his one & only means.

just wanted to say that.

dubla

comf-

According to your contention, it would not be possible for me to be doing the speed limit or less; physics itself would force me up over the speed limit due to my lack of belief.

no, that wasnt my contention at all....you are merely attempting to cloud the issue. im fully willing to admit that you could accidentally follow some of gods laws without knowing it, but not all of them can be followed without believing.

I DON'T CARE. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT. I'M NOT AFRAID OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ME.

thats fine, but honestly, when did this become a discussion about your opinions of the bible and gods laws? im glad youre comfortable with your stance of not believing.....im not the type of person (anymore) that would attempt to push my religious views onto you. i respect your beliefs, and everyone elses on this board for that matter.

I said that was not the case, and I am right; it isn't, with the exception of the law that you have to worship him.

well, youve successfully declared victory and admitted defeat in the same sentence...congratulations, lol. actually, there are other "laws" that you wouldnt be able to follow without believing (aside from worship, which you already admit is one), such as telling others about god, teaching others about the bible, and of course the simple "law" to believe (which you also pointed out), or have faith...etc.

However, the fact that I don't believe in God doesn't make me a menace to society, a sociopathic killer, tax fraud, rapist, drug addict;

it sure doesnt, but thats really irrelevant.

If you disagree, then I'll need you to point out which of God's laws I've broken by not believing in him (other than the obvious requirement to believe).

well, ive pointed out a few, several times now, and you yourself have pointed out a couple.....so im a bit confused now. you point out specific "laws" that you cannot possibly follow without believing, and then you ask me to point out specific "laws" that cannot be followed without believing.?.?. hmmm. well, this is how i see it. you started out by making the claim that following gods laws was as simple as having good "morals". i showed that to be nonsense, and pointed out some specific "laws" that have absolutely nothing to do with morals, to which you half agreed, and yet you are still sitting here making your claim about having good morals. look, i have no problem admitting an athiest can have equally good morals when compared to a christian....but thats not the point of this little argument, and never was. youve actually helped me prove my point, so i suppose there isnt much else to say about it.

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Attention Quantum leap fans

by bboyneko in

they are making a sequel series..the plot revolves around a woman who takes sam's place..sam gets to go home.

it will begin with a 2 hour intro movie.

i am personally peeing my pants in anticipation.

dubla

is scott bakula scheduled to play sam going home then? interesting sequel.

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Lots of Jehovah Bashing in Here

by Perfection Seeker in

i think when people leave the organization, they lump it all together- jehovah- religion, organization, etc.

i am not doubtful there is a god, but just doubtful that he used the wts to be his one & only means.

just wanted to say that.

dubla

great post alan. i dont always agree with everything you say (obviously considering i still believe in god, and even the bible, though lately ive found myself heavily doubting the bible....but thats another subject), but you always make a whole lot of sense man. i think thats why i, and so many other posters enjoy your posts so much. you really put things succinctly, and make the reader think. thanks.

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Lots of Jehovah Bashing in Here

by Perfection Seeker in

i think when people leave the organization, they lump it all together- jehovah- religion, organization, etc.

i am not doubtful there is a god, but just doubtful that he used the wts to be his one & only means.

just wanted to say that.

dubla

comf-

I'm going on the assumption that you're Christian.. correct me if I'm wrong on that.

i dont label myself as anything actually. i used to be a jw (born and raised), and ive been out for the last 6 years. i dont go to any church, but i do still believe in the bible. i suppose there are many definitions of the word "christian", and i fit at least one, that of believing in christ. but im hardly following in his footsteps or following any religion based on his life at this point in my life.

God's laws do not "encompass much more than
simple morals".

well, i guess it all depends on how you think of that term, "gods laws". sure, you can show me one scripture that refers to "the law", but if youre very familiar with the bible, you know that much more than that is asked of those doing gods will. thats all i meant by the comment, but i suppose you can take any number of scriptures and make a different case out of each one.....in context though, there are many things involved in serving god (worship, morals, accepting jesus as the savior, preaching, etc, etc), when you deal with gods word as a whole. of course, if you dont believe in the bible, its really all pointless anyhow....why would you even care about following "gods laws" if in fact you do not believe he exists?

The same way I can drive down a road not knowing the speed limit, doing the speed
that seems right to me, and be within the limit. This seems pretty obvious to me.

and this seems like obviously faulty logic to me. so are you saying that you might accidentally be following gods law without knowing it? what if the speed that seemed right to you was in fact 20 over the limit? how would you know unless you got pulled over?

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108

Favorite Football team?

by WildTurkey in

ok guys and dolls, american football will start in a couple months, so who is the team you pull for?.

ok i know i will get shit for this but go cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i love the dallas cowboys

dubla

elders-

13-2? first off, theres 16 games in a season.....secondly, i think 2-14 is more like it, lol.

if the lions make it to the super bowl this year with schroeder and hakim as their starting wideouts, and harrington/mcmahon as the starting qb, ill personally pay for your ticket to the big game.

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Edited by - dubla on 10 July 2002 15:50:15

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Inglewood cops are insane

by jelly in

what the hell is up with the inglewood cops?

i hope the cop that threw the punch not only gets fired but has criminal charges brought against him.

what makes it worse is those dumb-asses are going to make it harder for the good cops (that make up 90% of the police force) to do their job, because everyone is going to assume all cops are like those creeps.

dubla

valis-

the assault started when the slammed the kid onto the cop car.

my guess is (from the looks of the boys face before the punch) that it actually started way before that even. of course, its one story vs. another about what happened before the tape started rolling, but it wouldnt surprise me one bit if he/they worked him over beforehand.

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