Amazing,
None that I knew.
Duncan
Duncan
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POLL - Elders vs Molesters
by Amazing ini wish to conduct a legitimate poll, or at least as legitimate as it can get on this forum.
unless you are or were a jw, please do not respond or make comments.
please simply give an answer, without extended comments.
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When did you think Armageddon would come?
by comment ini was just thinking about this.
having been raised "in the truth" post-1975, i didn't grow up with any specific year in mind.
yes, there was the notion of "this generation will by no means pass away," but by the time i was old enough to think about that concept, the people who were born in 1914 (to stretch it out as far as possible, as the society ultimately did) were still only in their 60's.
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Duncan
Hey comment, Great thread!
The summer I left school to pioneer was 1970 (I was 15, youngest legal age to leave school in the UK at the time) and before I left, I had occasion to speak to my class (I was ALWAYS doing stuff like this in those days) about our "bible-based beliefs".
THe 1975 thing was in at fever pitch in the Org. at the time, and I had many times preached to my friends about it. They had all seen - and were probably sick of - the October 1968 Awake! magazine about being "later than you think"
But I recall being very circumspect about what I said as regards precise dates - noting that the Society always seemed to fudge a bit in print, talking about "the mid-seventies" as being "Significant" and an "Appropriate Time" etc.etc. So, when pressed abut the date at the end of my spot, I was all "mid-seventies" this and "mis-seventies" that.
The class were not satisfied and kept up the pressure, and I ended the session - in a flush of Zeal, Righteousness and Holy Spirit - by proclaiming that it was
"...a cast-iron CERTAINTY to be all over by 1980!"
I remember it so well. It's great being so RIGHT about things, isn't it - when everyone else is wrong?
By 1980, I was well on the way out, so it sort of was all over - for me, anyway.
In 1993, there was a 25-year class reunion, and not a single person was unkind enough to mention it.
Our 50 year reunion is scheduled for 2018.
Unless Armageddon comes first.
Duncan, (buying out the opportune time)
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new Britian elder letters: molestation
by Dogpatch insomething i just read, proofs are at:.
http://thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/.
dear brothers:.
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Duncan
Randy and All,
One thing that struck me while reading this letter is how recent it is. It is less than 4 weeks old and already it's all over the Net.
It does seem that the time it takes for this kind of stuff to leak out is getting shorter and shorter. Which has got to add to the general paranoia and siege mentality inside the WTS, I guess.
As Maximus said "watching it all unfold..."
Duncan.
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Artificial Blood Is in the Pipeline
by Kent inscience: universally compatible, the milky white substitute could hit market in two years.
by marlene cimons, times staff writer.
because the blood supply here is so safe, any potential risks from fake blood must be taken very seriously before any products are licensed, according to experts.
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Duncan
Interesting story, Kent.
It has been commented upon before that this idea of the development of "artificial blood" is precisely what the Society has been praying will happen, in order to get them off the hook, and resolve away the whole blood doctrine mess.
Who knows, this might yet save their legal hide.
But thinking Witnesses might wonder at the ethics of it...
If it was so incredibly important to observe the "abstain" rule -
if observance of this Divine Mandate was so crucial that it called for ever more elaborate and detailed rulings on just what compounds did and did not constitute blood (so there could be not the slightest possibility of offending God by mistake or default) -
if God was so utterly uptight about this issue that he preferred to see young children die rather than there be any infraction, however minor of His rules - -
is He really going to happy with this turn of events where Man has produced something which looks like, acts like, is functionally equivalent to the blood that He regards as so sacred, inviolable and significant ?
Surely, the use of this "artificial blood" will be every bit as offensive and repellent to Him - as indeed will be the very idea of trying to evade the Divine Decree by means of artifice and trickery!
"Artificial Blood" indeed!
"God is not one to be mocked!"
- or at least, this is what my mum'll think.
resignedly,
Duncan.
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I'm going to be a father!
by dedalus ini've been a sorry excuse of a poster lately, so i'm not really in tune with what's going on with the board, but i still know enough people here to make an announcement: foxy, my fiancee, is pregnant!.
so it happened a couple of years before we were planning it, before we could even get married, before i've finished my postgraduate degree -- but so what?
we're financially sturdy enough to pull it off, i'll be able to complete the degree and get a good job, and no amount of financial anxiety seems to offset the excitement i feel to be having a child.
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Duncan
Dedalus
Can't tell you how happy I am for you. It's brilliant news.
Having a child is an exciting, half-frightening, life-enhancing, and maturing event. It's also just tons of fun.
It was the knowledge that I was about to become a parent (almost a quarter-century ago now) that finally made me get some focus on my vague misgivings and Get The Hell out of the Watchtower ("no child of mine is ever going to go through..." etc. etc.)
Incidentally, in the last month, I became a grandparent for the first time. So, kind of, all those emotions again.
Once again - Congratulations to you!
Duncan.
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June 7...How will you vote?
by digderidoo ingeneral election...june 7....uk.
how will you vote?.....now that we are allowed to vote it would be interesting to see what political persuasions we have.. for me it is important to vote.
for years i have been told that i cannot voice my opinion....however to vote for me is one of our fundamental human rights.
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Duncan
Hi Didge,
Last time round, I ended up voting Tory - only because (for the first time in my life) I actually attended a candidates meeting and saw the calibre of individuals on display.
The labour candidate ( a young girl - one of Blair's babes) was simply hopeless. Couldn't string 2 sentences together. Had no ideas at all, as far as I could see, a complete product of the Party Machine.
Whereas the Tory chap actually seemed to be of some independent substance. I was impressed.
Did no good. The girl romped home.
Dunno aboout this time.
Having come only recently to the Voting Arena, as it were, I'm actually seriously considering an abstention this time round.
(the not-very-political) Duncan.
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Our mate
by Duncan indear all.
don't you think it's great that you know is back?.
i mean, you might think he's a fat head and all, but it's pretty obvious he doesn't mean any of that stuff he posts.
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Duncan
Dear All
Don't you think it's great that You Know is back?
I mean, you might think he's a fat head and all, but it's pretty obvious he doesn't mean any of that stuff he posts. He's one of us, really.
I hadn't realised how much I missed him until he started posting again.
"You apostate vipers!" yeah!
"You pitiful, doomed ridiculers of the Most High!" alright!
Just like old times!
Duncan
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Musings on the WTS Funk
by Farkel inthe watchtower society is in a funk.
no doubt about it.
it is stagnant and paralyzed by its own inertia.. it has survived for one and one quarter centuries for a few very simple reasons: .
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Duncan
Great Post, Farkel.
Your point about "intellectual laziness" was well argued. I'll tell you what, though - what'll make your postings easier to grasp:
Did you ever think of maybe numbering the paragraphs and then, like, writing these little questions underneath, so that we can all get the point?
I'm sure some folks might even enjoy underlining the answers to the questions! That way we can all be sure that we're in total and united agreement with the full and weighty import of the post!
What a truly thrilling and upbuilding arrangement that would be! Surely all right-hearted persons would show godly appreciation for such bounteous blessings!
Your brother,
Duncan
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One Proud Englishman.
by Englishman ini've got to tell everyone, my wife christina has just had a letter from bath spa university.. after 4 hard years of study on "inclusive learning", her dissertation has been formally approved, and as such, she is now officially an m.a.. ain't the girl done well?.
englishman.
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Duncan
Hey Englishman
That's great!
Congratulations to her. Pass on my best wishes.
(Just watch out, though, that now she has her head filled up with Worthless Worldly Wisdom, she doesn't start to neglect the spiritual things, like ...er...making her monthly quota of magazine sales, or underlining bits of her Watchtower.)
Duncan, only concerned in a caring way for your spiritual welfare.
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Kingdom SMELLodies
by reagan_oconnor inwhich "kingdom melodies" did you most despise?.
mine had to be #125... the one that talked about "bees that were molested.
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Duncan
Hey Fark
From House to House
Di-Dum di-dah....Do you remember the brief flirtation that was enjoyed with upbeat, jazzy arrangements of the Kingdom Melodies at the District Assemblies in the early 70's? ( or was it just a UK thing?)
Pretty soon the GB stepped in to stamp it all out - we had to go back to the slow, ponderous, wooden, officialy-sanctioned versions of our Musical Praise to the Most High. They couldn't lose control of a single aspect of things, not for a second.
I remember reading the official line in the magazine about how we must not cheapen the "grandeur and majesty" of the official Society recordings.
I remember that "Grandeur and Majesty" business particularly because that song From House To House must be the least majestic, least dignified and most irritating, lump-di-dah, stupid piece of "religious" music in the history of the world.
Of course, it's not at ev'ry door we find a hearing ear!
Duncan.