i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
Nelly, reading your posts fill my heart with so much pain and so much anger that I want to explode. These people feel so out of control in their own lives that they need to exert some sort of control on helpless little beings. No courage to stand up for themselves and take back their own power, absolutely sickening...
My heart goes out to you, I too was abused and my girls will never know that pain.
i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
Tears.
with the recent birth of a jw sextuplet "litter" .
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/169562.
possible need for blood transfusions clashes with jehovah's witness belief.
I went through years of infertility as a witness and was actively involved in RESOLVE, the largest national support organization for those going through IF (infertility).
With that said, IVF is very much looked down on among JWs. IVF can produce upwards of 20 to 30 embryos outside of the womb. Even if a couple decides to freeze the remaining embryos for their future use, there is the ethical issue of what happens should the husband or wife divorce and there are unused embryos. Also freezing almost always kills off the weaker embryos, so a JW would be willingly killing off human life (in their view). GIFT can be an alternative in which the harvested eggs are put together with the washed sperm inside the fallopian tubes. However, that still would require the husband to masturbate and that is a no-no. So getting around the IVF issue is virtually impossible.
with the recent birth of a jw sextuplet "litter" .
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/169562.
possible need for blood transfusions clashes with jehovah's witness belief.
I wrote a letter to the editor about the comments by Ruge. He has used a ton of double speak to skirt the fact that JWs DO NOT support infertility treatment nor the couples going through it. At it's fundamental base, JWs believe trying to have children in this time of the end is unwise, so actually supporting a couple struggling with this would go against their core belief. Secondly, anything other than intercourse is seen as unclean. Just the work-up alone involves a semen analysis. A process that requires the man to mastrubate. We won't even get into their issues w/creating life outside the womb.
i'm looking for assistance from those of you who live in atlanta.
i am an award-winning, nationally recognized children's photographer from florida and am currently expanding into the atlanta area.
i have a couple of clients there who are helping me, but would love all the help i can get.
Attempting to solicit help...so I keep bumping...
not wanting to highjack hoping4change thread..........it might be a good thing to share some of these sad stories in more detail.. i know of 4..............2 at bethel!.
1 richard wheelock pressroom overseer for over 40 years.............it was after his death (jumping out a window at the farm) that the society soften their stand on suicides............they now might have a resurrection hope.......that was kind of god to change his/her mind....yes the light gets brighter!.
2. james olson jumped out of the factory building # 4 oct. 31 1973.............they wouldn't let him leave.
ITA on the validation. I've said it before, but if anyone ever decides to set up a memorial webpage for all of the names of those lost, I would donate for those I've lost.
i'm looking for assistance from those of you who live in atlanta.
i am an award-winning, nationally recognized children's photographer from florida and am currently expanding into the atlanta area.
i have a couple of clients there who are helping me, but would love all the help i can get.
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i'm looking for assistance from those of you who live in atlanta.
i am an award-winning, nationally recognized children's photographer from florida and am currently expanding into the atlanta area.
i have a couple of clients there who are helping me, but would love all the help i can get.
I'm looking for assistance from those of you who live in Atlanta. I am an award-winning, nationally recognized children's photographer from Florida and am currently expanding into the Atlanta area. I have a couple of clients there who are helping me, but would love all the help I can get. I need to find high-end, trendy children's boutiques in the Buckhead and/or Alpheretta regions in which I can display my work. I am willing to do a complimentary shoot for the owner but I am really adamant that it be high-end as this is my target market.
I'm trying to reach out to all my friends and acquaintances in hopes that they will have leads for me. Anything, even a name, would be helpful. You can either respond to this post or PM me. I would be happy to send you my website so you can see that I am legit before giving me any info, but I don't want to post it on an open forum.
Thanks!
Rebirth
i'm just curious.
i wonder how many readers out there think the stuff they've read sound so much like someone they know that they're going, ohmigawd!!
or if circumstances described seem like big fat give-aways.
Well I've found a relative from my side and introduced a relative from husband's side to this site.
i decided to take the advice of some of you here when i wrote about my situation.. i am married, but my wife is a die hard witness.
despite me showing her mountains of evidence and her actually accepting it, she is regressing back into jw think.. this has happened since i stopped mentioning anything anti-jw.. now she thinks that my problems with jw's were just a phase because i am not bringing up the issue anymore.. i really want to leave this religion, but i can't do that without losing her.. many here i know are trapped and some are still serving as elders.
i don't know how you do it, but i guess routine is routine.
One other thing regarding the regressing back in. When something is pounded into your head at least three times a week, it is hard to break free. JWs know this, that is why they make meeting attendance a huge issue. Most of the people who leave started by spending time away from the organization and actually seeing it w/o rose-colored glasses on. That is classic cult mind-control for you.
