Posts by Schism

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Advice please! (kinda urgent)

by Schism in

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ok, so let's say you haven't gone to a meeting in a while.

then along comes the co visit (the first since you've stopped attending).

everyone has pretty much left you alone up until this point, right?

You guys have some great advice. I should avoid biting the bullet just yet. It's going to be difficult trying to be vague and act like there's something I need to think about, but I think it's been very obvious all of my life that I never liked being a JW. They must already be in a state of denial, but I'm sure they know what's up.

I'm still laughing at OnTheWayOut's depiction of what that sort of "I don't wanna talk about it" conversation looks like!

These people are stressing me. Where can I move?

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Advice please! (kinda urgent)

by Schism in

jw
friends

ok, so let's say you haven't gone to a meeting in a while.

then along comes the co visit (the first since you've stopped attending).

everyone has pretty much left you alone up until this point, right?

Schism

OH yeah:

In my mind, I have been playing around with the idea that I could pull my "social anxiety" card, which I was also diagnosed with. But I know they won't believe me. They know I lie to get out of stuff. This will just be another lie, and I have already burned my parents enough (got into LOTS of trouble and was DFed at 18). I'd rather a nice way to tell them the truth than to lie.

But I am too chicken to come out and say it

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Advice please! (kinda urgent)

by Schism in

jw
friends

ok, so let's say you haven't gone to a meeting in a while.

then along comes the co visit (the first since you've stopped attending).

everyone has pretty much left you alone up until this point, right?

Schism

LOL, I love reading all your posts!

Well, it would be easier if my parents weren't involved. They also live next door to me, lol. I think they can tell how happy I am nowadays. That's why I believe the depression card is running out

Oh yes, and my husband told my dad not long ago that he believed the Bible was a crock of crap. Now they will want to know if I believe that way too, and they'll want an "honest" answer.

I want to be honest and tell them that I don't believe in God and that I am SO happy, I mean REALLY REALLY happy ever since I decided to not worship anyone. Evolution fascinates me. The meetings made me angry, and me and my man would fight over nothing at all. Marriage is so fun now, and we really have a life full of just hanging out and cutting up with each other, and we don't want to share ourselves with a room full of 100+ wackos.

They also shouldn't have forced me to get baptised when I was 13. That was not what I wanted to do.

Can I say that in a nice way? Or is this just going to be impossible?

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Advice please! (kinda urgent)

by Schism in

jw
friends

ok, so let's say you haven't gone to a meeting in a while.

then along comes the co visit (the first since you've stopped attending).

everyone has pretty much left you alone up until this point, right?

Schism

OK, so let's say you haven't gone to a meeting in a while. Then along comes the CO visit (the first since you've stopped attending). Everyone has pretty much left you alone up until this point, right? So no one knows that you hate everything about the meetings. In fact, they think you aren't going because you are depressed. When actually, you are having the time of your life!

So now the phone calls begin. "We love you, miss you, want/NEED you to come to the meetings this week. The CO is in!!!!!!" (Yeah, like that's some kind of incentive to get me to go...) He is a pious douche. I totally can't stand his attitude. Everyone else seems to absolutely LOVE, I mean LOVE him. He's one of those "too good for you" types.

Someone was already plotting to literally come to my house today to kidnap me and take me to the TMS. I say kidnap, but I mean drop by to pressure me (force me) to get into the car and ride there. Same thing though...

I don't hate these people, and I don't want to hurt their feelings. Many are family. I am just NOT going to another meeting, EVER!

Is there a nice way to say that without doing too much damage? I want to be sensitive to their feelings but they will drive me up the wall if I am too nice. I have had my time to be "depressed" and now I need to go back, according to them. I need another excuse!

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Nathan Knorr's online grave....

by kid-A in

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an online memorial to good old nathan homer knorr, complete with touching tributes from his fanclub..... perhaps i will leave a note.....hee hee hee...... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&grid=6818565.

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Schism

Look at Rutherford's notes too! Some nasty ones in there. I love it!

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An Abortion question, a Christian paradox?

by free2beme in

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i have expressed this question to many of my christian friends and heard a mix of answers.

each time, they come from the central feeling they have about christianity, and few come from the bible's view.

here is the question, in regards to abortion.. as it is taught in traditional christianity, to kill a life is to mean you are worthy of death yourself.

Schism

I should also add that I have tried to find a doctor who would sterilize me so that this would never become an issue, but it appears that the general concensus with doctors is that I have to have children before they would agree to the procedure.

It's not fair that I have no choice as to what to do on my own body, but I do have the option of having however many abortions I want. Proof that there is a problem with the system. I would MUCH rather have my tubes tied than to have an abortion. It seems like some of the rules that are in place cause abortions in the first place by not granting childless women the right to sterilization.

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An Abortion question, a Christian paradox?

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i have expressed this question to many of my christian friends and heard a mix of answers.

each time, they come from the central feeling they have about christianity, and few come from the bible's view.

here is the question, in regards to abortion.. as it is taught in traditional christianity, to kill a life is to mean you are worthy of death yourself.

Schism

Here's my situation:

I'm not too poor or uneducated to have kids. The truth is, the earth is over-populated. There are too many people here, period. Not only that, but if I were to have kids, it would be selfish of me. For every child that is born, one more will have to live as an orphan.

My interest is in animals. I have always had a passion about adopting from pounds and shelters to help ease some of the suffering (every little bit helps). I also would love to pursue a degree in biology for the sake of helping wildlife.

If I ever decided I needed a human child, I would want to save one from life as an orphan. But since I don't feel maternal instincts towards human kids, I don't think that will happen. Either way, I want to spend my life helping things that need me, not creating more living things!

Bottom line, by being self-less and wanting to help others, I am pro-choice and would have an abortion if my choice in contraception ever failed. Of course, I would never wait until late in the pregnancy to do it because it is painful for the fetus. But while it is still an embryo, I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's not my place to add to the problem of overpopulation on earth.

Victims of rape should not need an excuse to have an abortion. They were forced into a situation already. Why should they also be forced into motherhood? I don't believe in compromising one's emotional wellbeing for the sake of an embryo.

As for others who tend to think abortion is a good form of contraception, bad idea! It should be a last resort only. I've never had one, and hopefully never will.

I hope no one here takes this stuff the wrong way. I feel pain for anything I see suffering, and I have a big heart. Because of this, I could not dedicate my life to raising a child. It's just not helping matters. That's my personal decision. For anyone who says that I shouldn't have sex if that is the case, sex is part of my emotional wellbeing and my relationship with the person I chose as my partner, and I am not willing to sacrifice that for the sake of a possible future embryo either. Everyone has to choose their priorities, it's part of life.

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Nathan Knorr's online grave....

by kid-A in

jw
friends

an online memorial to good old nathan homer knorr, complete with touching tributes from his fanclub..... perhaps i will leave a note.....hee hee hee...... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&grid=6818565.

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Schism

LOL, I found it incredibly difficult not to leave a note of my own. The ideas that ran through my head had me laughing out loud!

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Proof of crossing the red sea? I doubt it!!!!!!!

by Schism in

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first of all, i'm sorry i couldn't figure out how to take off this huge red font!

well, i got this in an email (from someone who thinks the bible is a loving and beautiful book) and i believe it's a crock.

why on earth would the wheel below be so very shiney???

Schism

Thanks Seeker and Mystla! He was a nut case after all!

Don't you find it insane how, when scientists and archeologists say there's no proof of the Bible, JWs say, "well they're not perfect and they don't know everything". But when they think a scientist/archeologist is trying to prove the Bible, they are like, "trust them, they are experts, they must know!"

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What's The Worst Personality Trait Or Negative Quality A Person Can Have???

by minimus in

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i can put up with a lot of things.

but i avoid people who are "users".

you know the type....always taking, never giving, always looking to take advantage of someone......and i don't like liars all that much either.

Schism

If machoism could be a negative quality (as in, JW men believing God loves them more and their wives are made to serve them), that would be my #1 hated attribute. To think you have a god-given right to rule someone else because of gender differences is puke-worthy.