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  So what is it with women and closets?

  by onacruse in

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  so we're remodeling a bedroom in our house, and that includes me adding (at considerable expenditure of personal energy, i might add!

  ) a new shelving layout in the closet.. now, i ask kate what she thinks is best, and add a full shelf here, and a bank of multiple shelves there...and then, all of a sudden she starts going on and on about how much extra space she's going to have for all her "stuff" (guys, you know what i mean!

  lol).

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  My husband and I share a closet, cut in half right down the middle. He has as much clothes and as many shoes as I do. Stop generalizing
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  What could they be wanting now?

  by Schism in

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  ok, so you know about my parents' and my email exchange.

  mom said come to meetings, i was genuine with her and told her why i don't, mom replies with denial of what she just read (like i am a confused baby), then i replied with an email that absolutely takes care of everything.

  from evolution vs creation, to the bible, to jehovah, and the wts.

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  LMAO!!!!!!

  Avid! You know, I've always hated it when you quoted scriptures, but you are a priceless jewel for one who could use a good scripture or 2, or 4, to get their JW parents off their back! Good one! I love you! I will quote one or 2 tonight when I sent mom my email to cancel this meeting!

  I love the one about minding your own business. Priceless I'll get that sonofabitch! (oops! I mean, daddy dearest/husband-harrasser)
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  Who on the forum would you like to meet face to face?

  by avidbiblereader in

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  if you had your chance who would you want to meet face to face, talk to them, spend some time picking their brain, have a dinner with, get to know better?.

  i have many but want to hold off for now!!!.

  abr.

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  Let's see........

  Who here is sexy?????
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  What could they be wanting now?

  by Schism in

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  ok, so you know about my parents' and my email exchange.

  mom said come to meetings, i was genuine with her and told her why i don't, mom replies with denial of what she just read (like i am a confused baby), then i replied with an email that absolutely takes care of everything.

  from evolution vs creation, to the bible, to jehovah, and the wts.

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  lmao
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  What could they be wanting now?

  by Schism in

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  ok, so you know about my parents' and my email exchange.

  mom said come to meetings, i was genuine with her and told her why i don't, mom replies with denial of what she just read (like i am a confused baby), then i replied with an email that absolutely takes care of everything.

  from evolution vs creation, to the bible, to jehovah, and the wts.

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  LOL @ BigMouth! Yes, you are very right.....all of what you said. And I LOVE the idea of laughing inappropriately! I'm good at that!

  I'm just going to email my mom and say the meeting is cancelled. There's no reason on this earth for them to involve my husband.
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  What could they be wanting now?

  by Schism in

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  ok, so you know about my parents' and my email exchange.

  mom said come to meetings, i was genuine with her and told her why i don't, mom replies with denial of what she just read (like i am a confused baby), then i replied with an email that absolutely takes care of everything.

  from evolution vs creation, to the bible, to jehovah, and the wts.

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  Fleaman, though I do agree with you that we will have to get tough on them, I disagree that my husband is a wimp (note in one of my posts, my husband actually has demanded respect from his managers and supervisors, as well as drunk patients). My husband has quite a temper when it comes to dealing with strangers and workmates, and is highly respected on the job. When it comes to family, it is difficult to be a hard-ass. I did ask for opinions though, so I respect yours.

  YES, he is being a pushover when it comes to my father. If you knew my dad, you'd probably be the same. No one stands up to him because everyone is afraid of him. He is too used to getting his way with people and I am about to be the one with the guts to call their house and tell them NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

  "No" is a word they never hear. They lived their lives as attractive, well-off people with great connections. At one time, they barely made the meetings and would laugh at elders (of course, this particular detail has changed since then). This is going against their grain.

  Ok, so everyone here has placed their votes? It is unanimous, I need to handle this one?
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  What could they be wanting now?

  by Schism in

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  ok, so you know about my parents' and my email exchange.

  mom said come to meetings, i was genuine with her and told her why i don't, mom replies with denial of what she just read (like i am a confused baby), then i replied with an email that absolutely takes care of everything.

  from evolution vs creation, to the bible, to jehovah, and the wts.

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  Oh, believe me...I am not letting this happen! LOL

  I just wanted different perspectives on the ways others would handle this. I am just at my wits end. I type up 2 LONGGGGGGGG emails, explaining everything and just wanting to be left alone to live my fricking life.

  My husband is very intimidated by my dad. My father's presence alone intimidates the crap out of other men, even total strangers. Once, a guy was parked at a red light and littered out of his window. My dad honked to get his attention and he pointed to the garbage on the road. The guy freaked out, got out of his car, and picked it up. That's just one example. Yeah, he is that scarey to other guys.

  I doubt I will be able to get my husband to call him back and say no. I will have to get a self-help book on how to say no to parents, even big scarey ones.

  Funny, he deals with idiot patients all day long, people who are drunk and try to hit at him, and he screams in their faces to establish control of the situation. My husband's supervisors don't even mess with him because he yells at them too! But my dad's voice over the phone makes him shrink!!! WTF? I can't believe my family will keep putting us on the spot like this until I tell them I hate them and want them out of my life. Why do they want to keep pushing until I completely freak out on them? I am TRYING to do this the NICE WAY and they WILL NOT LEAVE US ALONE FOR ONE DAMNED DAY! They must WANT to see how MAD we can be. Then, and only then, once we have retaliated with anger, they will back off. I don't want to be MEAN about this.

  *growl* I am so pissed off. I'm not scared of my fricking dad. That is the whole reason I am not invited. I am too outspoken and would ruin his whole plan.
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  What could they be wanting now?

  by Schism in

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  ok, so you know about my parents' and my email exchange.

  mom said come to meetings, i was genuine with her and told her why i don't, mom replies with denial of what she just read (like i am a confused baby), then i replied with an email that absolutely takes care of everything.

  from evolution vs creation, to the bible, to jehovah, and the wts.

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  Ok, so you know about my parents' and my email exchange. Mom said come to meetings, I was genuine with her and told her why I don't, mom replies with denial of what she just read (like I am a confused baby), then I replied with an email that ABSOLUTELY takes care of everything. From evolution vs creation, to the Bible, to Jehovah, and the WTS. I really drove it home, that I am not accepting this crap anymore.

  It worked, she has not replied to my email. She read it, and there's been no more "I can see how you are confused, the WTS compact disk will answer it all".

  But this thread is for a completely different matter. This morning, my husband called me from work. He got a phone call from my father. He sounded a bit strange, and it made my man nervous. Dad wants to sit down and have a talk with him, one on one, when he gets off of work. Not thinking (distracted because he works in emergency healthcare and actually WAS running an emergency), he said yes to the meeting!!

  This is a big problem:

  1) My dad sounds unstable

  2) My dad is the size of Hulk Hogan

  3) My husband is the size of Edward Norton

  4) Dad has been a JW for 50 years, my husband has never been one and isn't able to combat the little twisty-twirly mindgame magic.

  People, my man has NEVER been baptized. He studied for a little while, had a falling out with the elder he was studying with, they fought (verbally), and we have kept to ourselves ever since. Not because of the fallout, but mainly because I was ready to stop being a JW by then and it seemed like a good time to disappear.

  My husband is shy and doesn't know enough about their beliefs to protect himself.

  Several months ago, after we'd decided not to believe in their caca anymore, we were over at their house (they wanted us there for one of these "father and son-in-law one on ones"). My dad pulled my husband into another room and worked his magic. We were in the car on our way home after that, and he was already considering that JWs were right about everything. All it took was 10 minutes of games to get him to change his mind!!! This isn't a fair fight! Twisting logic and smoothing over all of the hard-to-swallow doctrines is not a fair deal.

  I told him, "you know, my dad worked his JW magic on you and it worked", and just then, he snapped out of it and said, "oh my god, you are right! I fell for it again!" Yeah, like a fricking spell.

  Today, my man is sounding quite nervous about it. He knows he can't defend himself from the JW indoctrinating magic tricks. My dad is pulling him aside, away from me, because he KNOWS that he will get more garbage packed into his head without me there to protect him.

  I guess he read my last email and figured....."well, if I can't talk some sense into her, maybe I can convince her husband to come to the meetings. Then, she might follow him". Either that, or, "he is worldly and he is the reason my daughter believes in evolution, so I have a bone to pick with him". He thinks my dad meant it in the latter way. I am thinking he wants this meeting for the former.

  I specifically said, in my final email: "No phone calls, no visits. Let's keep this in email because it is calmer and easier for each side to pull its thoughts together before saying anything rash". And here we are, 2 days later, a phone call and an invite for a "chit chat". Men only....wouldn't want the waspy daughter there to stomp out any little Jehovah flames!

  My husband is working a 24 hour shift on an ambulance. He is under-slept, he is stressed out over several things having to do with work, he is stressed out over college. This has come at a bad time for him, and now that he has AGREED to this meeting, and is regretting it, he wants me to find a way out of it for him. So here I am, racking my brain for ways to get him out of this trap he's allowed himself to be pulled into, and I am asking for your ideas and opinions.

  Remember, I am not invited and he is not conditioned to argue with their nonsense, yet in a moment of not thinking....he agrees to a conference!

  Geez. Are they sure Adam wasn't the one fooled in Genesis? LOL Or maybe the smooth-talking snake was a Witness? Oh wait, I forgot! That story isn't real...
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  I dropped the BOMB, but it missed???????!!!!!!!

  by Schism in

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  hello my dearest friends.

  so sorry that i have not been online much.

  i have been quite busy lately!.

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  Spaz, I see. It is very hard to be able to tell a joke from a non-joke through typed messages without little winkies after them. Thank you for all your support!

  Aude, no. My husband is "worldly". They have convinced themselves that he used to KNOW this is the "truth", so they are acting like not only is my sudden "behavior" going to kill me, but it is going to kill my once sheepish husband as well.

  But THAT is a whole different chapter in this drama! :)
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  I dropped the BOMB, but it missed???????!!!!!!!

  by Schism in

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  hello my dearest friends.

  so sorry that i have not been online much.

  i have been quite busy lately!.

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  Spaz, my parent's are immature, spoiled, and like to play the name-calling game. I am not being a hypocrite. I am being brutally honest. They are VERY immature and spoiled. Because I am being honest about their traits, this makes me a bad/hypocritical/immature person? Nah, I don't think so... It's time for me to stand up for myself and give myself credit for talking to my parents in a much more mature way than they talk to me. They are spoiled and childish for calling me names for my difference of opinions.

  I would love for a JC to be called and for me to be DFed again. I won't go the the JC, but I am sure they will figure out a way to do it without my presence.