Posts by awol

29

WTBTS money making for who?

by awol in

there is a lot of talk on here about the wtbts a money making organisation.. maybe, but who is this money going to?.

like a friend "in the truth" lol said, it's all put back into the work.

and who would want to be a missionary, they don't get any money out of the society etc etc.. so who reap the rewards here then?

Yes, I used to hear about the CO, PO etc being given a "well deserved" holiday in so and so elder/brothers villa in Spain! lol! I was like "oh, we could do with a holiday, my poor mum and dad have 6 jobs and 5 kids and we don't get a holiday". Anyway, apart from giving the pioneers a meal or two, they are not as worthy, obviously, as the higher ranking. Tho they could blag A LOT out of you!!

So, as for the money.....? there is talk of wtbts being loaded but you don't see top bethalite or GB driving a top of the range merc to his amazing mansion is what I mean!

29

WTBTS money making for who?

by awol in

there is a lot of talk on here about the wtbts a money making organisation.. maybe, but who is this money going to?.

like a friend "in the truth" lol said, it's all put back into the work.

and who would want to be a missionary, they don't get any money out of the society etc etc.. so who reap the rewards here then?

awol

Are the lawyers JW's? well that don't make sense.

Looks like it is so the top rankers can live the life. Take holidays, have nice cars and not have a care in the world.

You say this to a JW such as my friend (and me a while back), and they will tell you they get a very small allowance.... saying who would want to not have their own home to live in and go from others house to house to help out the congregations?

I used to look at the CO's at pretty much looked after imo when I was little. I used to think how nice it would be to be pampered all the time and not have to do cleaning and pay bills.... but people used to say what a hard life it was for them.

NO JW would EVER believe that they are being taken for a ride and that is for sure! they would need black and white proof to show where the real money is going.

It's hard to take in.

29

WTBTS money making for who?

by awol in

there is a lot of talk on here about the wtbts a money making organisation.. maybe, but who is this money going to?.

like a friend "in the truth" lol said, it's all put back into the work.

and who would want to be a missionary, they don't get any money out of the society etc etc.. so who reap the rewards here then?

awol

It makes me really sad.

Whilst growing up, we were led to believe that the society and congregations needed voluntary contributions. When we took money from the placements we were told they just about cover the printing costs.

We didn't have a hall of our own, so we rented a village hall. We were given a special talk to try to raise money ANY WAY WE COULD to have our quick build (which NEVER TO THIS DAY has happened and where the money we all raised ended up is beyond me).

So, we all rummaged though our jewellery, house, attics, cellars, sold EVERYTHING that we couldn't take with us through ARMAGEDDON. Which included my nan's personal belongings and her furniture my mum inherited. Not that we had a lot from her and certainly we lived hand to mouth in those days (well still do!). My mum sold EVERYTHING and we are talking about a family with NOTHING. Oh the elders wives still draped jewels around their necks, ears and wrists .... went abroad, had lovely clothes etc! When the CO and his wife visited I often thought "How come she can have jewels and nice things when we are asked to sell ours? I thought we couldn't take them with us". It was always like this. We were NEVER to have or expect nice things, cos the congre-bloody-ation needed it!!!!! BALLS.

Now this is 30 odd years ago give or take...... my mum still struggles and my nans personal things are all gone! F..k them! I never understood this!

29

WTBTS money making for who?

by awol in

there is a lot of talk on here about the wtbts a money making organisation.. maybe, but who is this money going to?.

like a friend "in the truth" lol said, it's all put back into the work.

and who would want to be a missionary, they don't get any money out of the society etc etc.. so who reap the rewards here then?

awol

There is a lot of talk on here about the wtbts a money making organisation.

Maybe, but who is this money going to?

Like a friend "in the truth" lol said, It's all put back into the work. And who would want to be a missionary, they don't get any money out of the society etc etc.

SO who reap the rewards here then? Who takes all the money and has a good life on the profits then?

14

JW's to stop the preaching work??

by awol in

jw
friends

my mum went round to my jw sisters the other day and she said she had some exciting news.

my mum has fallen away and the rest of us kids don't go (either fallen away or d/f'd).

she then asked her husband if she could tell my mum... and they informed her (with huge big grins) that the preaching work is soon to stop.

awol

Yeah your right. What I don't see is, IF they do say STOP on the preaching front.... how will they justify the END not happening? So, a year or so goes by.... will no one question it? On discussing WHY my friend thinks JW's are the chosen religion... she answered by saying "they are the only ones preaching throughout the world". Not because Jesus chose them. So, wonder how she will be if/when they stop this work. I might write to my sister and her husband asking for them to forward me the printed information they recieved about this. When they can't do so or tell me where it exactly came from, I can go forward from there.... maybe nudging at least her mind to think for itself!!

29

MAT. 24:14 FULLFILED - MIAMI ASSEMBLY

by pixel in

i was talking this morning while i was preaching with this sister, and she asked me: do you know that the preaching work will be done soon?

i asked her: what do you mean?

she responded back: a sister (and i know her also) told me that her brother heard that the preaching is gonna be over because there are only two countries that jw can't go because it's too dangerous and yada yada yada.

awol

pmsl at bonzz!

Hope they broadcast over here!!!! That's one I mustn't miss.

I started a thread on this over in "friends" as I didn't see this first.

My sis and her MS hubby are all excited about this too. Well, the rumours have got all round the world and back to us all too - but they've not printed it! So, when nothing happens and 20 yrs goes by, they will say, as they did re all the other dates for A, that they never printed it (although they did in most cases) and it was just a rumour. Like you have all said above, it keeps up the preaching work!!! and makes more profit.

14

JW's to stop the preaching work??

by awol in

jw
friends

my mum went round to my jw sisters the other day and she said she had some exciting news.

my mum has fallen away and the rest of us kids don't go (either fallen away or d/f'd).

she then asked her husband if she could tell my mum... and they informed her (with huge big grins) that the preaching work is soon to stop.

awol

After posting I saw another thread re the fullfillment of Matt scripture.

From the outside in, you can see exactly what is going on here. From the inside you can't. IF I was ALLOWED (ha ha) to talk to my sister, then maybe I could get through to her.... but maybe not.

What a shame this is though. They are clinging on to these rumours that go around the world in the organisation, and are just waiting for bethel to say "stop preaching now", then they think that they will go through to a perfect world!!! In the meantime and the real world, I don't get to see my nephews and neices grow up and they don't get to see my kids either.......... so when they reach 20 plus they won't know each other, have any memories of growing up together just like me and my cousins! They might grow weary by then, and be full of regrets like my parents are now!!!!

Makes me soooo angry.

14

JW's to stop the preaching work??

by awol in

jw
friends

my mum went round to my jw sisters the other day and she said she had some exciting news.

my mum has fallen away and the rest of us kids don't go (either fallen away or d/f'd).

she then asked her husband if she could tell my mum... and they informed her (with huge big grins) that the preaching work is soon to stop.

awol

My mum went round to my JW sisters the other day and she said she had some exciting news. My mum has fallen away and the rest of us kids don't go (either fallen away or d/f'd). She then asked her husband if she could tell my mum... and they informed her (with huge big grins) that the preaching work is soon to stop. My mum didn't rock the boat and comment much. Her husband is a MS so, if he really shouldn't be going on hear say if it is that.

So, basically she is teeling us that this is it... as soon as they are given the say so from America to stop the preaching .... then the end will come!! They were very very excited and happy. Shame though, cos ALL the rest of her family are gonna die a very nasty death (according to their preaching) so how she can be so happy is BEYOND me!!! Wow.

Anyway, anyone else had any news on this?

28

JW says the end of religion is beginning to happen!

by awol in

jw
friends

when talking to my jw friend.... she asked me if i had seen the news about businesses now not putting up xmas deco's etc.

this is so as not to offend people of other religions ie jw's and muslims etc.. she said this is going to lead to (a start of) the banning of all religions worldwide!?.

i said i think it shows more tolerance and respect for other religions.... that is not how she sees it (or any other jw's that have been discussing it).. what are your thoughts on this.

awol

Well, I put my thoughts forward to her, but her replies are that the worlds two main political powers are turning on religion and are going to take charge. Talking about uk and us. She went on about Daniel (it went a bit over my head.... I couldn't take it all in when in the org - so now it made less sense). All I wanted to ask her is WHY does she think JW's are THE religion. So do millions of other believe the same thing. She says they are the only ones carrying out the preaching work, who have studied the bible, who have translated it in to 100's languages, who have unity and love amongst themselves, who do not tolerate any ungodliness etc etc. Mainly about the preaching work. The only interesting thing that came from the convo, was when I asked her about the turnaround on the blood issue. She asked me if I knew what it was all about as it is in depth. I said I did. She informed me it was a concience matter, and that her concience told her to not use ANY blood fractions or blood. I said but for sister/bro so and so to GIVE blood would be ok. She said I don't think so. So I asked where she thought the stored blood to get the fractions from would come.... haven't you to pour out on to the ground? She said she hadn't thought about it. I said, but a sis/bro could get d/fed for celebrating a birthday.... surely the blood, which was one of the biggest JW teachings now changes, but something tinie like b/days is still banned! She said it is what the bible tells us. The proverbs scripture about the light getting brighter appearred, and she still stood by the fact that they are the only religion preaching etc etc etc. she said the history doesn't matter and of course things will change as Jehovah shows them more insight! She said she has researched to try to find if they have EVER printed or preached a date of the time of the end but she said they definately HAVEN'T...!! grrrr

28

JW says the end of religion is beginning to happen!

by awol in

jw
friends

when talking to my jw friend.... she asked me if i had seen the news about businesses now not putting up xmas deco's etc.

this is so as not to offend people of other religions ie jw's and muslims etc.. she said this is going to lead to (a start of) the banning of all religions worldwide!?.

i said i think it shows more tolerance and respect for other religions.... that is not how she sees it (or any other jw's that have been discussing it).. what are your thoughts on this.

awol

But the banning of all religion to them would be one of the signs of the end of this system of things.... so they get very very excited to see and hope it happens.