imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).
how would you respond to your family?.
personally i think i would be less than cooperative.
Sorry... This is not an hypothetical question at all. This exact thing happened in the late 1970's with a view change. You were allowed to associate with family members as long as you had no religious interchange. I believe it was Ray Franz that wrote and helped to implement that policy. It was only a matter of a few years until they changed back to the beat them and shunning policy in 1982 and that is where we have been ever since.
I remember that now that you brought it up Poztate.
imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).
how would you respond to your family?.
personally i think i would be less than cooperative.
If people that know you go the extra mile to shun you for you, then it means they know you well enough to know what kind of a person you really are, and are in a much better position to decide why they are doing it without having to blame the entire organization.
I don't think so SimonSays. I don't think they knew me at all. Otherwise I would have come back and sat at the back of the hall like they probably expected. As far as the Borg goes I am sure they had plans for a young brother like me. One elder even told me that. LOL.
I was young then and now I am getting old all those lost years was harder on them than it was me I'm sure.
imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).
how would you respond to your family?.
personally i think i would be less than cooperative.
how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?
what is the oldest settlement in south america?
how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.
how long did the flood last?how long can land vegetation survive submerged in seawater?how long can freshwater fish survive in saltwater?how old is human civilization?
what is the oldest settlement in south america?
how did those people get there from the middle east after the flood wiped out everything on the earth?.
allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.
i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.
some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).
It was my understanding that this site welcomed both views, I was mistaken.
Introvert 2 . You can have both views if like but don't expect your views to go unchallenged. Nobody is disfellowshiping Bro Jeremy here. Not like the watchtower does. Go tell the elders about your posts on here and that you disagree with some of what the borg teaches and see what happens to you!
that is what my professor of philosophy asked us last night at class.. he said that pontius pilate asked jesus that question and that it was a hard one that jesus couldn't answer.. what do you think about this question?
what is the truth?
does the gb has any truth?
What is truth?
It's similar to a proof. One of our former prime ministers here in Canada, Jean Cretien was asked what a proof was? He said "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." LOL
would like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .
would like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .
when i see people on here saying they've looked on several sites before this one, jwfacts, jwstruggle, youtube, etc., and then they make friends here, sometimes meeting up with ex-jws, it seems incredibly easy compared to leaving in 1989. .
no internet, no amazon to find ex-jw books, no facebook to link up with ex-jw groups.
still people find it so hard to leave.
"It is easier to mentally awaken to TTATT then ever before. Before the internet, it was near impossible"
I agree Londo I reasoned my way out of the truth before the internet. It was tough my family shunned me I was a young man with no money and no job and not even a place to live. It was a very lonely and troubled time in my life!
Now days with the internet there is no excuse for not being aware of TATT leaving on the other hand is a different kettle of fish.
