i was reading in daniel chapter 9 verses 25-26. i was wondering if anyone here knows when the "command to rebuild the temple" happened.
does the "sevens" mean weeks or 7 years.
it add's up to 483 years.
I was reading in Daniel Chapter 9 verses 25-26. I was wondering if anyone here knows when the "command to rebuild the temple" happened. Does the "sevens" mean weeks or 7 years. It add's up to 483 years. And supposively there was a command given to rebuild the temple at 450 BC on March 14th. If that is so, it amazes me the accuracy of the triumphant entry into Jerusalem of Jesus.
Anyone know any more on this one?
i live in memphis.
months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.
i'm a believer in the holy bible.
AGAPA37:
I take it you haven't read through all 12 pages on this thread. We've allready determined from scripture that Jesus is the Son of God....That's clear.
You should read through these past 12 pages to also determine that Jesus is not only the Son of God, and also Jesus is God....at the same time.
It was against the law back then for a person to claim he is God. So, Jesus was, unable to be "sinless" by breaking the law. He let others say he was God. Like you said. Let's see what other's said about him.
John, himself said Jesus was God. Look at John 1:1, not the NWSCT (new world so-called-translation) but acredited translations like the KJV, NIV, NAS, NLT. John, clearly says Jesus is God. Thomas, after Jesus had resurrected, said he was "my God and Savior!"
What about the preists? When Jesus was forgiving people sins, the preists said "blasphemy, only God can forgive sins!" We'll the preists were right, only God (Jesus) can forgive sins.
Jesus says "destory this temple and I will raise it in three days" (speaking of his body) Don't you believe God raised Jesus from the dead? Jesus said "I" will raise it...
Jesus's name is Emmanuel....which means "God with us."
Jesus knew people's thoughts too! Jesus rebuked demons, even Michael the ArcAngel dared not rebuke demons (in Jude) when disputing with the devil of where to put Moses body.
When the disciples kept asking to see God, Jesus said, "you've seen him, in me"
God is the Alpha and the Omega, Jesus calls himself that in Rev. 22.
I know it's confusing, but look at it this way; we are created in the image of God, not as God. We don't have the understanding and never will have the comprehensation of how God was formed. Forever he will be mysterious to us, because we are just humans. No scientist can prove or even begin to explain where a soul comes from. We all know a soul exists. And such is the design of God. Just trust and obey, for theirs no other way.
i live in memphis.
months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.
i'm a believer in the holy bible.
A M E N ! ! !
i live in memphis.
months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.
i'm a believer in the holy bible.
Mondo,
I will say it again, you are not answering the question of the speaker change. Probably because you know in your heart that there is not a speaker change.
I'm not side stepping. You are! I've already explained. What testimony is he talking about? The one from the previous verses. He says he coming. Then the auther says..."Amen, Come Lord Jesus." The one and only speaker calls himself the A & O, Beginning and End, First and Last Jesus. The more I continue looking at this verse, the more confident I am in that Jesus is refering to himself as the A & O, B & E, F & L. It's just obvious and clear. When I had those JW's over at my house and I showed them this verse, they didn't know what to say either. So they changed the subject. Then they went on to tell me only 144,000 will go to heaven and Jesus is Michael....I then could not stop laughing, I felt so rude to laugh in their face, but come-on! give me a break. I know they don't really believe that themselves!! Who are they kidding?!?
Hellrider,
Hey man, your right, I did sound like a televangilist. I should watch what I say and how I say it. The bible clearly teaches us that we have "Hope" in Jesus. I guess it's can sound errogant to say know this, know that. I do have hope. And I do believe I will be in Heaven one day with Jesus.
i live in memphis.
months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.
i'm a believer in the holy bible.
Mondo,
I take it you don't really know how you came up with a speaker change in Rev. 22. I guess you only know what the "Jehovah's Witness's" say about that and it is really..."off" lets say. Guess the Bible speaks for itself of who Jesus really is! Amen!
The JW's have such a strong history of teaching such false belief's that are so far from the truth. That makes me have a hard time believing ANYTHING they have to say.
The JW's are a WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.
To a previous post on is the trinity a salvation issue:
To me I've not really researched the trinity a whole lot. However I have researched the deity a whole lot though. I'm not a trinitarian buff, but I do know who Jesus is, He is God (John 1:1). What I also beleive is is that if you deny Jesus of his true identity, then you are not right with God. I am convinced He is God made human. I am willing to give my life for that also. I will worship him all the days of my life. I will follow him. And I will continue to tell the story of Jesus to all my friends and family who don't know him.
I grew up in a dead church where the bible was not preached. It was the blind leading the blind. My home church had no more "Jesus" in it that the YMCA does. The YMCA is supposively the Young Mans Christian Association and my home church is supposivly a Christian Church. But there is no more worship, learning or fellowship going on at the Y that at my Church back home. Thank God Almighty I am not there anymore. And I will make sure that I seek God's will which is to Spread the Word and bring others to Jesus. John 10:9 "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture."
Isn't it great to be saved! And know that we will be with Jesus in heaven!?!
The closer I get to God, then the greater of a burden I have to Shout it from the Housetops, Proclaim it from the Mountaintops, and tell the world around Jesus Saves.
Let me ask you this. If you knew on the morning of 9-11 that 2 airlines would be crashed into the WTCs and kill thousands of people in a burning fire what would you do? I bet you would probably run up and down the stairs at 7:00 that morning shouting "Get out, Get out, Get out!!!" We probably agree here. Now if you sincerely believe in a hell, where there is weaping and gnashing of teeth. Would you not tell everyone you know that's not saved about the danger of death apart from God. Where you will spend and eternity in hell where there is weaping and gnashing of teeth, where you wish you could "get out". If you love others, then we should tell everyone we know who Jesus is and how he can save us from the fire.
i live in memphis.
months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.
i'm a believer in the holy bible.
Mondo,
You still have not clearly explained how there is a speaker change in rev 22. "This testimony I speak of..." is the testimony of what is previous verses above. There is 1 speaker.
You gave a politician's answer, a round answer to this earlier. Please speak straight, directly to me, CLEARLY!!
i live in memphis.
months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.
i'm a believer in the holy bible.
mondo wrote...
When God identified Nebuchadnezzar as "king of kings," he did not say: "You are the king of kings of earthly kings." The qualifier you are adding... you are adding.
--------->No I'm not adding anything. You are incorrect. It's a literal interpretation of the fact Nebuchadnezzar is an earthly king! YOU, in a way, are putting him above God, they way you write it. Nebuchadnezzar, is a sinner, like you and me who fall short of the glory of God. Jesus and God are waaaaaay above Nebuchadnezzar. If I said that pilot is a "Pilot of Pilot's", that would not make him qualify as equal to the chief pilot of the airline! He would just be a great pilot of pilots. Only 1 Chief Pilot at the airline however.
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Nobody denies that Jesus is coming, but that doesn't mean the Father isn't in some way also. Not only does Isaiah 40:10 speak of it, but in a parable, Jesus spoke of it as well. See Mark 12:6-9. There Jesus is represented by the Son and God is represented by the owner of the Vineyard. -Mondo
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We are in agreement that Jesus is coming, and we are in agreement that the Father is coming in some way also......in the form of Jesus. Jesus is God. AMEN!!!
Your points on Rev 12-20 are off. I think your confused. Infact I think your probably scratching your head thinking....we'll that's what the JW's taught, but uh I uh hmmm don't know. Your either for or against Jesus. Every knee will bow, every tounge will confess, including you. Look at verse 16, what did he send his angel to testify about? The above verse's! It's Jesus speaking throughout. How can you just jump back and forth to interpret what you want the word to say? You can't, Jesus is God!
i live in memphis.
months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.
i'm a believer in the holy bible.
Mondo,
Yes, please explain your logic on Rev 22-12-16. How do you get that it jumps from father to son? It's clear to me, that it's Jesus speaking throughout these verses.
So here on earth Nebuchadnezzer was referred to as king of kings. But Jesus said "my kingdom is not of this world."
Sure dog's and cat's are "pets."
Pet's is NON-specific. Cat's and Dog's are more-specific. If I refer to my dog I say "the 3 year old miniture dachsund named Luigi Francesco. Which is highly specific. "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." Is VERY specific.
Look at verse 12...who is "coming quickly"? Look down at verse 20 ""...Yes, I am coming quickly" Amen. Come, Lord Jesus."
i thought it is ironic that the jehovah's witnesses force their members to go door to door throughout the neighborhoods.
and then once a year american's have a tradition where our kids go door to door throughout the neighborhoods on halloween.
but the jw's kids can't go!
I thought it is ironic that the Jehovah's Witnesses force their members to go door to door throughout the neighborhoods. And then Once a year American's have a tradition where our kids go door to door throughout the neighborhoods on Halloween. But the JW's kids can't go! The one day out of the year, were are encouraged to good door to door, the JW's don't go!!!
i live in memphis.
months ago, i had some jw's come by and talk with me.
i'm a believer in the holy bible.
Mondo, Did you go to school for your knowledge? If so where?
