I also thank you Simon. This site is needed to link us all together and see us through something most people don't understand. This helps us to cope and move on.
Dyan
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Simon, Suicide & DF JW's thread
by qwerty inafter reading the thread (link below) about the df jw lad, it occured to me sites like this surely can help to save lives (sadly not in this example).
it makes the blood boil to think the borg as ruined so many peoples families, responsibility lays with them for suicides!
" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=30238&site=3&page=1"" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=30238&site=3&page=1".
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What was your crisis
by JG inwhat was your crisis of conscience, moment of clarity, epiphany or realization?
i am so interested in what got you thinking.
blessing to you,.
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dyan4help
After 25 years as a witness, though not always an active witness, my husband passed away leaving me with two small children to raise. This was my crisis and I turned to the witnesses for comfort and support as I have no close family because I was a witness.My PO and his wife called me and came to my house and sat with me and the children at the hall to support me in my time of need. Then the life insurance check came and my PO asked me to invest the money in building our new kingdom hall and the society would give my money back. Then he brought me a contract, because that is how Jehovah wants money matters handled, but it was for him to borrow the money and he would have it back before the witnesses needed it. After he got the money he started showing up at my house with a 12 pack of beer under his arm making sexual advances towards me. Two other brothers got wind of this and they started visiting me too. Sometimes at the same time. We all sat on the front porch because my children were not used to people drinking and getting drunk around them. Anyway, a sister who lives up the street spotted the brothers at my house and word got back to the elders who called me in for a meeting. I was told to deny everything by the PO. I told everything. To make a long story short, I was told I would not get my money back, I told them I would sue, they said I could not do that to Jehovah's name. I ended up disfellowshipped. The PO had to step down and he filed bankrupcy on me. He was reproved and is in good standing. When I questioned the elders about his good standing, giving them bible verses about liers and theives and money matters and taking care of widows and the fatherless boys and showing them articles in the watchtowers about this, the new PO said to me that I could research all I want in the watchtowers and the bible, they don't go by these things. They have their own set of books and rules they use. So much for religion.
Dyan
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So Are All Your Problems Brooklyn's Fault Then?
by Englishman inin another post, jan h said about this site:.
...there is a very angry crowd there, for obviously and understandable reasons, who will accept no dissent regarding their core dogma: that the wts is responsible for all ills and problems in life.
if what he says is correct, then i am very alarmed at this.
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I am the one responsible for letting them do what they did to me. But they go door to door looking for people who are in pain and are overwhelmed, then they work their way into your life using God and saying they have all the answers. They take advantage of you when you are down and try to keep you there.I blame them for the pain and suffering they cause to families and children while in their care and keeping.I blame them for using the bible to control your thinking and using people up till they break you or you can't stand the pressure anymore and you ask them why and they cast you aside like old worn out shoes and make you feel like you failed God and your family. If anything I am guilty of dropping my guard and trusting too much. They robbed me of much more than all my money. They took away my ability to trust others and trust in myself, that the decisions I make for me and my young children are the right ones. I will have many problems in my life before I die but they will be from lack of experience.....not blind faith.
Dyan
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To My Mother
by MrMoe inat about 6:30 this evening my mother passed away.. .
the best mother and the best wife anybody could ever be blessed with.
she was not only my mother, she was my friend.
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Sorry for your pain Moe....may comfort and peace of mind come to you in your time of need. {{{Moe}}}.
Dyan
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**PLEASE WELCOME-MY SISTER TO THE BOARD**
by zev inshe tells me she registered as "shunned".
please give her the big warm apostate .
j w d style!!!.
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Nice to meet you shunned.....
Dyan
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PRESS RELEASE
by silentlambs inplease distribute freely to press.. silentlambs.
tuesday, may 7. .
jehovah's witnesses begin excommunicating child sexual abuse whistleblowers .
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dyan4help
I have sent your press release to all newspapers and television stations in my area. And I sent it to CNN News and Fox News.
Dyan
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Anatomy of a JW Prayer...
by Mister Biggs inthe jw's always teach that our prayers should not be repetitive.. however, for those that are still "active" (and for those who still remember), i present to you typical words or phrases that make up a jw prayer.. feel free to add to the list!.
-"dear heavenly father, jehovah" or "jehovah god".
-"bowed heads and humble hearts".
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-"Please allow us to approach your throne of undeserved kindness."
Dyan
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Well, here's my story... Like it or not.
by staceman inwow... i feel guilty about even being here, let alone posting my story.
but here goes.... it was back in the late 60's that my dad (actually stepdad who adopted me and my older sister when he married our mother) got witnessed to by a guy that he worked with.
he was invited to our house for dinner along with his wife and that was the beginning of my new life.
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Staceman.....
Reaching out to these wonderful people here will support you on your way to a better truth then you had thought you had found. There is something wrong with a religion that turns its back on as many nice people as there are here. Don't give up. Enjoy the love you now have in your life.Dyan
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How many Bikers we got here? (fluff)
by Geordie injust wondering how many of us "apostates" have gone all the way and become bikers.. i have just bought a yamaha xjr 1300cc and i also own a vw trike.. any one else out there into leathers/heavy drinking/rock music/rallys/drugs?
oh yeah and bikes?
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dyan4help
At the congeration I attended there were quite a group of elders and friends who owned harleys. They got together and went riding around it large groups in southern united states. They rented large chateaus in the smokey mountains,got durnk at the bars there and played in the hot tubs back at the chateaus. They called themselves, "Bikers for Christ". The lead biker was the PO of the congeration. He has since been replaced.
Dyan
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How much trust do you put in others?
by sleepy inhow much of what we know is built on trust in others?.
when you examine what you believe and why you believe it , how much is built on trust that information you read or hear is correct?.
of course none of us have time to check every thing out and it seams perfectly reasonable to me for us to have to trust others.. but we have all been burnt in the past.. sometimes what initally seams reasonable turns out to be false.. prehaps we can look at the methods used by people to see whether research is trust worthy.. but unless we personnaly can test these methods how can we vouch for them?.
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Sleepy....
I came to the same conclusion about trust as you express in your letter. I doubt my own common sense and ability to make good judgement calls. In fact the Elders made the same statement about me and said it wasn't their job to guide my final decisions only to lead me to the place where I need to make to the choice. For all wrong choices I, of course will answer to Jehovah. What used to be the smooth flow of every day decisions in my life became and arguement in my head every time I had to decide something. Everything in my life and my childrens lives came to a standstill. Depression took over. From somewhere deep in the recesses of my mind I have decided that when your trust is betrayed it is just as if someone cut you deeply with a knife but not quite deep enough to kill you ...just make you wish you were dead. As with all wounds it takes time to heal them. If I dwell on what caused the wound it is like getting an infection in it and it just takes longer to heal. In time a scar will form and I will go on good as new and by that time the wound they caused will have made me stronger not weaker. I relate this to the dandelion that grows in my lawn. Is sends up a bright yellow flower into the sun to live life the way it is meant to. I come along with the lawn mower and cut off the flower and it seals the stem where I cut it and it sends up a new flower and continues to live. I too, will send up a new flower. Thank you for expressing what I have been feeling.
I grew up in an era when you were seen and not heard. What you were taught in school you had no right to question. This carries over for some of us to adulthood. What "if" we threw away the text books?
Does the expression,"learn from others mistakes," really mean, "look this could happen to you if you don't do as I say?" Who is "I"? The whole support system of the mind can begin to unravel if you begin to think that everything around you might not be real,or could have worked out differently only "if".....Dyan4help