Posts by dyan4help

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Central Ohio xjw's ?

by phil J in

this is phil j grew up in springfield, was a servant before my fall from grace about three years ago.

looking for some old friends or new ones with a similar back ground.

i'am 27, 6'1" blond hair blue eyes played basketball alot, hung out with aaron w, jon w from springfield.

The things that went on...

by shamus in

the things that went on behind closed doors in kindumb halls appalls me.

i just can't even put into words the things that i have found out over the years... how horribly elders treated people, how everything was kept secret... .

it disgusts me.

There were "clicks" at the hogwash hall I went to. The home you went to for the book study depended on the click you were in. If you were too old or sickly or they thought you would tell what went on you went to the hall for your study. My bookstudy was at the PO's house. He had 4 children and had birthday parties for them that we all were invited to come to with food and presents but he said as long as it wasn't on their birthday it was OK by him to do this. I am a widow with 2 kids and he invited me and the kids to go on vacation with his family and told me that his wife and kids go to bed early and I could sneak out of my room after mine were asleep and he would show me a good time. This was said standing in his house and he had his wife show me pictures of the place we would stay on the internet and laugh about it. He often got drunk with another "brother", and they would show up at my house and I would not let them in. I didn't want drunks around the kids even if it was the PO. He sat on my front porch and talked about everyone at the hall.. Told me the confessions some made to him. Said most of the men at the hall didn't know how to be men. He had ugly names he called the crippled people who went there. He said he had enough on the other elders and the CO that they could not touch him. He was right........I am gone and he is still there.

Dyan

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Do JW couples really have better relationships?

by Latin assassin from Manhattan in

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are jw marriages any better than the ones 'in the world' as they put it?

when they walk from door to door or mingle after a meeting they appear to be models of ideal marriages.

do you have any experiences with married couples in the 'truth'?

dyan4help

I went back to the kingdom hall after years of being inactive. My husband had just died and I thought I should get right with God so I took my two children to the meetings. Soon 3 married men started showing my kids attention. (The fatherless boy routine,) Soon they were calling me and showing up at my house all the time by themselves. One was the P.O. of the congregation who asked me to go away with him for a weekend. His best friend was one of the men calling me too and when they found out about each other trying to see me they started argueing over who could stand up to the elders better and not run, if or when they found out what they were doing. The third one would walk me to my car after meetings and one night his wife came out and screamed at him and grabbed him by the arm and pulled him to their car. He never came back again but his wife started calling me and taking the kids out to lunch all the time. She never mentioned her husband. When the elders finally got wind of what was going on and asked me, I told them the truth, all of it. The P.O. wife said that I would never know what I did to her family. He lied to the elders about it and it became a he said, she said thing. The third man stood his ground when the elders told him he could not speak to me again. Yes he was married but his wife lived in another town and came home once a week while he was at work to see if she could catch him doing something wrong so she could divorce him witness style. The elders said they could not make his wife do right by him and he had to live this way. God would take care of it in his time. In fact there were 4 other married couples that lived seperated and could not divorce until one of them got caught cheating. The elders chose not to care about that either. Anyway when the elders tried to reprove him he said that was enough and moved out of the house and got an apartment and filed for divorce. He was disfellowshipped and 2 months after his divorce was final he found out he had leukemia and died 6 months later. What a waste of life.

Dyan

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Does anyone elses household run at 200 decibels?

by hippikon in

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why do 4 year olds and 2 year olds not know how to wisper?

dyan4help

I have a 14 and a 16 year old armed with steros, with head sets that collect dust. What upsets them is I am learning the words to their music and sing along.

Dyan

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Bad Elder Stories

by shamus in

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what was the worst elder that you ever had to deal with?

i will post my story in a second...

dyan4help

I told this story when I first got here but it is a bad elder story worth telling again. My husband died in 1999 and the elder of my congeration and his wife showered attention on me and my children at the meetings. We were in the process of building a new kingdom hall and this elder asked for money to be put up for the society from the congreation. During one talk after the meeting I told them I had no money till my husbands life insurance came thru. He asked to use my money for the building project and the society would give it right back. Not long after that he came to me after a meeting and said he was taking $20,000.00 of the money to use and would have it back before the society needed it. Gave me a contract and everything. Three weeks later he came to my house drunk and made sexual advances towards me. I told other brothers at the hall what was going on and a committee was started. His wife came to my house and told me I didn't know what I had done to their family. He denied borrowing the money that was supposed to go for the building fund. I gave them the contract. They said it had nothing to do with the society and I was trying to defame God's name. Arguements broke out...another brother told them he saw him drunk too...he was told to stay out of it..more arguements...to make a long story short...I am disfellowshipped. The elder said he didn't borrow the money...his wife did behind his back and it was her debt and they filed bankruptcy. The whole time the elders were telling me if I took anyone to court God would stop me and I would die. He is still in good standing.

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Insight into Death ?

by Brummie in

this is not intended to be a morbid post but because of the nature of the topic i guess it is anyway!

have you ever heard of a long time terminally ill person who could live a few years more yet seem to know that they were going to die in the next couple of days?

my grandfather called my cousin into his room a few years ago and told her that his funeral was happening before his eyes, he could see it, he died that night.. anyway, back to the original ?, have you heard of similar things?

dyan4help

My mother called me on the phone at work and asked me to take her to the hospital. She said she knew she was going to die that day but did not expect it to hurt. I took her to the emergency room and they did all they could do to keep her heart going but she died. They did make her comfortable so she had no pain.

In 1999 my husband died of cancer. He died at home and was on morphine so he slept most of the time. I was sitting in the room with him when he woke up and kept staring at me. I held him in my arms and we said our good byes and he died.

My father-in-law called me on the phone from the hospital.. He was in for tests...nothing serious...and asked me to forgive him for any wrong he may have done me. He said he was going to die in the hospital. That afternoon as he laid on a gurney waiting for his turn for x-rays he had a heart attack and died.

Yea.....they know

Dyan

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November birthdays-please sign in

by TweetieBird in

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i noticed that there are alot of birthdays this month, mine included.

my birthday was on the 12th.

all other scorpio's, please sign in and happy birthday!

dyan4help

Mine is the 16th......53 this year

Dyan

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Where were you born, raised, and live now?

by gilwarrior in

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friends

ah, yes, another fluffy topic!.

ok, here is how is works.

type where you were born, raised and where you live now.

dyan4help

Born Cincinnati, Ohio

Raised Cincinnati, Ohio (Same house)

Live Cincinnati, Ohio (Same house)

Will die Cincinnati, Ohio (Same house)

Do you see a pattern here?

Dyan

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One Life at a Time

by dyan4help in

i want to encourage you to continue to post the life saving information you have on the watchtower and the changing views on blood.

i have a jw friend who does not post here but quite often "reads over my shoulder".

never in this healthy persons life did he think he would have to make the choice to take blood to save his life.

dyan4help

I want to encourage you to continue to post the life saving information you have on the Watchtower and the changing views on blood. I have a JW friend who does not post here but quite often "reads over my shoulder". Never in this healthy persons life did he think he would have to make the choice to take blood to save his life. My friend is very ill and because of the "seeds of doubt" planted by the truly loving friends of this forum he chose life and took blood. The "brothers" told him to think about what he is doing to the congregation. If he takes blood it will encourage all of them to take blood if they need it. Lets hope they are right for once.

Dyan

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Have you ever...

by AGuest in

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had someone well-respected like:the mutual friend whom everyone loves... orthe teacher whom everyone loves... orthe boss/co-workers whom everyone loves... orthe elder/po/elder's wife/po's wife whom everyone loves... orthe pioneer sister whom everyone loves... orthe young handsome ms whom everyone loves.... say something to you... that they wouldn't in a million years say to anyone else... or cop to when the matter is presented to them because they could not bear to have folks know they really think that way?

so that when it all is brought forth, you are made to look like the trouble-maker because you said that such one said something they indeed did say... and yet, in the face of those who "love and respect" them, vehemently deny it?

or have you had others, including perhaps one of those above, say you said something you didn't say, not necessarily because they misunderstood you, but more truthfully because they heard what they wanted to hear... rather than what you were saying... because their minds... and hearts... were in a whole different place... a place where they were trying to find something "against" you so that they could say, "aha!

dyan4help

AGuest.....may God bless you and strengthen you in your efforts to carry out your commission.

You are right....my mind is trying to absorb everything you said. I even printed it out so I won't loose it. Every time I check to see if you answered, the thread is going further back. I can't begin to tell you how I feel right now. I am going to do as you suggested and read the scriptures you asked me to. Tomorrow I will be gone all day so I can't check or answer you. Would you mind if I e-mail you? I opened up my e-mail in case you would like to e-mail me. Please feel free anytime.

The joy you must feel.....the love.....the peace....

Thank you so much for sharing with me.

Bless you...

Dyan