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  Anyone molested by Chris Mckenzie in Oregon or Alaska please reply.

  by avishai in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this man molested at least 50 kids, many of them jw's in the early to mid 80's some in alaska in the early 90's.

  please pm me if you have any info.

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  Sam87

  bttt
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  Not again!!!!

  by mouthy in

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  2. scandals

  the watchtower printed a book "worship the only true god" in 2002. the front cover is a water scene of the ocean and dark mountains in background.

  nothing extremely special.

  guess what ?

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  Sam87

  reminds me of the johnie walker pic that they used for a cover once, how many times have they done this?
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  Mere Children who are Disfellowshipped

  by BabaYaga in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this was inspired by another thread, where freetosee told of a young witness baptised at the tender age of 9, and disfellowshipped at age 12!!!

  the mind goes wild at what a 12-year-old should ever be disfellowshipped for.

  how would a kid be so unrepentant they would deserve losing their family and friends?

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  that is pure insanity! how can someone make a decision to disfellowship a child? not to mention how can someone let their child get baptised at 9! would he even understand any of it at all? The amount of mental trauma that could possibly bring a child as he/she grows up is frightening.

  Sam87.
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  evolution or creation? lets talk...

  by Sam87 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, lets have a discussion about where we all came from, evolution or creation?

  (or whatever you beleive in of course) every one put down there main reasons, along with reasonable facts and backup as to why.. .

  hopefully this doesnt start to many arguments, lol.. .

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  man this is crazy, 25 pages?! i was exspecting only a few, lol. i guess its what either brings us together or divides us all up to an extent, the good old 'where did we come from' question.
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  Does anyone have a source for JW publications?

  by Sam87 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering if anyone has an 'inside contact' or some way of getting the newer jw material, i think it would be interesting to see what they are printing now, does anyone know of anything new?

  i have no way of getting any anymore because i no longer attend the meetings as of quite a few months ago,.

  thanks.

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  Just wondering if anyone has an 'inside contact' or some way of getting the newer JW material, i think it would be interesting to see what they are printing now, does anyone know of anything new? i have no way of getting any anymore because i no longer attend the meetings as of quite a few months ago,

  Thanks

  Sam87.
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  Help me corner them!

  by Sam87 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, just would like a bit of advice on how to 'corner' my ex jw mates so they see im right with only what their publications say and with the bible?

  i have a few ideas up my sleave but i was hoping to get a few other good examples on other topics like the blood thing, but only prove them wrong using their material, that way they cant say its 'apostate' (although you never know what some jws will come up with these days).. for example whats the best and least confusing way to explain the blood thing?

  we really need a reference on all of this so that we can make up a single letter that exsplains everything that they have contradicted themselves with and all the mixed up stuff they have done, straight to the point and soooo simple that even a jw can read and understand it (maybe a nice picture book with colouring in?).

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  thanks everyone! thats a big help, i know im pretty much wasting my time because they have already 'disowned' me so to speak, but i will be sending them all a letter on why i have left the org, and hopefully that will open their eyes to the real truth, thank you all once again:)

  Sam87
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  Help me corner them!

  by Sam87 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, just would like a bit of advice on how to 'corner' my ex jw mates so they see im right with only what their publications say and with the bible?

  i have a few ideas up my sleave but i was hoping to get a few other good examples on other topics like the blood thing, but only prove them wrong using their material, that way they cant say its 'apostate' (although you never know what some jws will come up with these days).. for example whats the best and least confusing way to explain the blood thing?

  we really need a reference on all of this so that we can make up a single letter that exsplains everything that they have contradicted themselves with and all the mixed up stuff they have done, straight to the point and soooo simple that even a jw can read and understand it (maybe a nice picture book with colouring in?).

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  ok then... maybe your just coming to that decision because of my obviously crap forum skills, i have a big enough JW background and ill tell you a little about it if you want,

  Im 19, male, born into Jehovahs Witnesses, only recently discovered the real truth, all my mates dont want to talk to me cause im an 'apostate', luckily for me my family who have been 'serving' for their whole life aswell have seen the same thing and we have all stuck together through it all (im very lucky for it to happen like it did) the biggest thing for me was the UN one, its so obvious after you research it all, my dad got all the info needed emailed to him from the UN so we know for sure this way that no one can deny it at all.

  I was never baptised, but still had strong beleif that this was the 'truth' although looking back over it i had no real proof, just a 'gut feeling' i guess you could call it, i was obviously wrong, lol.

  At the moment im trying to get convincing arguments that cant be dodged around (only using info from their books and the bible), so that i can do a little bit of 'witnessing' to my old friends, and anyone i end up talking to about the JWs.

  Theres obviously alot more to it than that, but it gives you an idea,

  Sam87 -aka- Troll.
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  Help me corner them!

  by Sam87 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, just would like a bit of advice on how to 'corner' my ex jw mates so they see im right with only what their publications say and with the bible?

  i have a few ideas up my sleave but i was hoping to get a few other good examples on other topics like the blood thing, but only prove them wrong using their material, that way they cant say its 'apostate' (although you never know what some jws will come up with these days).. for example whats the best and least confusing way to explain the blood thing?

  we really need a reference on all of this so that we can make up a single letter that exsplains everything that they have contradicted themselves with and all the mixed up stuff they have done, straight to the point and soooo simple that even a jw can read and understand it (maybe a nice picture book with colouring in?).

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  ooops sorry i said the wrong thing, lol, now im embarresed, i meant to say 'curent JWs that are my Ex mates' sorry about the confusion.

  Sam87.
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  Help me corner them!

  by Sam87 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, just would like a bit of advice on how to 'corner' my ex jw mates so they see im right with only what their publications say and with the bible?

  i have a few ideas up my sleave but i was hoping to get a few other good examples on other topics like the blood thing, but only prove them wrong using their material, that way they cant say its 'apostate' (although you never know what some jws will come up with these days).. for example whats the best and least confusing way to explain the blood thing?

  we really need a reference on all of this so that we can make up a single letter that exsplains everything that they have contradicted themselves with and all the mixed up stuff they have done, straight to the point and soooo simple that even a jw can read and understand it (maybe a nice picture book with colouring in?).

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  Sam87

  Whats a troll butters?
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  Help me corner them!

  by Sam87 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, just would like a bit of advice on how to 'corner' my ex jw mates so they see im right with only what their publications say and with the bible?

  i have a few ideas up my sleave but i was hoping to get a few other good examples on other topics like the blood thing, but only prove them wrong using their material, that way they cant say its 'apostate' (although you never know what some jws will come up with these days).. for example whats the best and least confusing way to explain the blood thing?

  we really need a reference on all of this so that we can make up a single letter that exsplains everything that they have contradicted themselves with and all the mixed up stuff they have done, straight to the point and soooo simple that even a jw can read and understand it (maybe a nice picture book with colouring in?).

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  Sam87

  Hi everyone, just would like a bit of advice on how to 'corner' my ex JW mates so they see im right with only what their publications say and with the bible? i have a few ideas up my sleave but i was hoping to get a few other good examples on other topics like the blood thing, but only prove them wrong using their material, that way they cant say its 'apostate' (although you never know what some JWs will come up with these days).

  For example whats the best and least confusing way to explain the blood thing? or the UN one? we really need a reference on all of this so that we can make up a single letter that exsplains everything that they have contradicted themselves with and all the mixed up stuff they have done, straight to the point and soooo simple that even a JW can read and understand it (maybe a nice picture book with colouring in?)

  Thank you all for your help,

  Sam87.