Posts by Butters

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

Butters

What is not sane about this thought process is that you are suggesting that people's minds be influenced by 2nd century thought instead of the opposing 1st century thought that has no trinity or any other philosophy not taught by the canon of the bible.

If you don't mind though, could you please address Revelation 1:1 for me? Why did God need a revelation from God? And did the other 3rd God need a revelation from God also? How many parts of God needed a revelation from themselves? Rather schizophrenic if you ask me. The real fact of the matter is that Jesus is just a human and nothing more then the very best human to ever live according to the BIBLE... The 2nd century from the 1st is like comparing the 19th to the 20th. Cell phones werent' around in the 19th century. The trinity wasn't around in the 1st, but became an idea of man in the 2nd sometime during that 100 year period... It's definitely not what the bible teaches though, and that is all I need to know.

Your link lacks tact. It is bias towards false philosophies and doctrines of man.

Butters

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Become Republican!

by Butters in

http://www.thefrown.com/frowners/becomerepublican.swf.

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Butters

Yes I think the topic here is keeping many from seeing this...

I might change it.

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Watchtower 2005 CD

by TrailBlazer04 in

i had downloaded an iso of the 2005 cd, but due to some computer issues i lost it...anybody know where to find it?

thanks in advance.

tb.

Butters

http://watchtower.cc

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It's Governments, Religion, Capitalist and Allies who attack Jah's people!

by Bryan in

the watchtower teaches that the united nations and governments will turn on the witnesses after first destroying religion.. this is what they say in their booklet conspiracy against democracy, 1940, written by rutherford, page 48:.

"the leaders and rulers of this world, religions, political, commercial and their allies all unite in their opposition and persicution of those who bear testamony to the name of jehovah and his king.

when jehovah's witnesses make know publicly that it is the purpose of god, in the near future, at the battle of armageddon, to destroy all opposers of his kingdom, that message greatly disturbs and angers the dictators and their religious allies.

Butters

When the United Arab Emirates become officially the 10 king kingdom and fulfill their role as the Assyrian in prophecy, then the great tribulation will begin. Right now they are only a 7 king entity. But these sheeks that are in power over there now have the ability for global dominance, and to rebuild a physical Babylon again. People don't realize where the anti-Messiah will come from. It is not European and it is not America. It's an Arab nation. Everything in the bible has always played out over there from a literal Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar, Alexander, etc, all had a literal government in Babylon. There is no reason to believe otherwise today...

The true Harmagedon is over there too. That river is ironically becoming a fertile valley again too as we speak.

IT will be interesting to see how this pans out. May the Holy Ruach Kodesh guide us all.

Shalom and Agape,

Bruce

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

Butters

Look, it doesn' t matter what people believe. IT's what the bible says. The bible plainly says that God is never tempted ever! Jesus is. The bible says that God never dies ever! If God died on the cross, the whole universe would collapse and existence end. God didn't die! Jesus died, and Jesus is Yoseph and Mary's son. He was fully human and not God. There is only one God, and that is the Father. (1 Cor 8:4,6)... Leolaia, Helenistic Judaism is wrong too! I don't care for any religions. They are all wrong. If you go by the bible alone, you don't get religions you get a book that never mentions the word "Trinity", doesn't teach a trinity, and has a Messiah that doesn' teach a trinity. Those of us who rely on the bible for information and not men or doctrines of men, know this is quite easy. Post conciliar creeds are heresy to a book that doesn't teach the idea. Jesus quoted the SHEMA (Mark 12:28,29) of Dueteronomy 6:4 very well. Please explain why Jesus himself denies what everyone else forces him to think and believe. If Jesus tells me that God is ONE, I believe him and not the trinitarian psychobabble or the WT's bable about an archangel becoming a man either...

The real simple fact is understanding the fact that Yahweh's set apart mindset (holy spirit) came upon Miriyam, and inhabited her. She conceived in her mind that she would bare the Messiah in her womb, and came together with her husband and had their child, after the angel told Yoseph not to fear what was going on inside her mind, don't put her away, take her to be your wife, etc... the seed of David... This was David's son, a human baby boy that was nourished on the Hebrew bible, and learned the Torah, grew up and received the Holy spirit himself when John baptized him (Mt 3:16-) and taught about the coming Kingdom in Jerusalem, then he was tortured on a staurous, and died, raised back to HUMAN life, and is still a human today (1st Timothy 2:5, Luke 24:37-42)...

I would like to hear how you Trinitarians explain Revelation 1:1 also... Why does God need a revelation from God?

That's what the bible says.

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

Butters

You cannot put three billiard balls on one spot.

Butters

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About early christianity: Good link!

by Hellrider in

i found a good text online, about early christianity: .

http://www.muslimhope.com/bibleanswers/earlychurch.htm.

...the text has nothing to do with islam at all, but it is published on a web-page that tries to reach out to moslems...(never mind that, it`s not important).

Butters

This is a horrible link. It promotes the Trinity. Tertullian didn't adress nearly half the scriptures that prove God cannot be tempted and that Jesus was tempted. Hebrews 4:15 makes it quite clear that Messiah (the human) was David's son, a man tempted like us. The Platonism that Tertullian believed came LATER. All of the early "church fathers" were influenced by pagan Greek philosophy. Specifically Xenocrates.

I am sad to say that this is a big misleading article. For some real truth, try:

http://www.creatorgod.org

http://www.godfellas.org

Butters

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Would You/Do You Remain As A JW "Technically"???

by minimus in

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friends

technically, since i am not df'd or dissasociated, i am considered by witnesses as an inactive jw.

i do not actively look to get df'd as i have family that are witnesses.

if i were ever df'd, then i'd deal.

Butters

You can check out any time you like... But you can never leave...LOL!

alt

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Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes

by Simon in

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friends

(the david bowie song in case you're wondering).

there seems to be a lot of talk and speculation about the changes that are coming at the next district conventions.

there have certainly been quite a few articles and talks (esp.

Butters

Wow. This thread was started 6 years ago.

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"Bible Teach" Book Question

by JW_Researcher in

was the "what does the bible really teach?

" book released in hardcover in addition to soft cover or was it released in soft cover only?.

please and thank you..

Butters

Check the original copyright date. Is that a book that was published before 96'? I know they stopped the hardcovers around that time I think. If it is a book that has been around a while, then it was at one time in hard cover. In 95' they came out with the "Knowledge that leads to everlasting life" which was temporarily available in both. I have two nice little red hardcovers. Oh the beautiful books and wonderful golden letters on the covers. Always judge a book by it' s cover. LOL the audacity!