Posts by FreeGirl2006

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All three parts of the July 27th Royal Commission Hearing are on Watchtower Documents Website

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.youtube.com/channel/ucavrp6e1aymhbf7yueukkxw.

all three segments of day one are on my website and youtube channel.. .

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If you "chose" this religion, as I did, do you remember the moment you "bought" the religion?

by Muddy Waters in

if you "chose" this religion, as i did, do you remember the moment you "bought", or believed, the religion?.

for me, it was during one of my studies with a knowledgeable, lovely pioneer sister who looked like her life was so perfect and wonderful.

i was coming out of a terrible situation in my life, very vulnerable, being abandoned by a husband during my pregnancy and with other little children to look after too.

Thanks for sharing your experience. My mom bought the cult card when I was two and it was all I knew the majority of my life. I have wondered what was going on in her head to make her buy in. She was a very bright lady, but she had just lost her husband via suicide (my dad) and grew up in poverty and abuse with no real religious affiliation or education. I think the bright shiny future they painted coupled with the promise that my dad would be resurrected made her blind to the rest of the crap. Preying on the downtrodden has proved quite successful for them

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How Far Apart Were Your Legs?

by Joe Grundy in

several threads on here about the excellent bbc r4 programme this week ('the report') focussing on rape and abuse in barry, south wales, jws.

fat pervert mark sewell later got 14 years and i hope he is enjoying every minute of it.. the courageous ladies who spoke on the programme were articulate, reasonable and made a tremendous impression.. the quote in the thread title made an impression on me, and i hope, on all listeners.. forget religious, theological, 'biblical' issues and cut to the basics.

a rape victim was asked to demonstrate - to demonstrate, ffs - to three unqualified (middle-aged at least, presumably) men just how far her legs were apart when she was raped.. i have rarely heard anything so outrageous, and i used to investigate rape and abuse in my profession.

FreeGirl2006

Rebelfighter--It was decades ago and I believe all the men are dead now. I definitely would take action if it were possible just to make sure that other victims would not have to go through that trauma.

I am a strong person and I kept asking for help. I got into therapy and I lead a lovely life now. You never forget what happened in terms of abuse, but I don't let my experiences be my master. The abuse did not and does not define me as a person. Getting out of the cult has made me very aware that my experience with the elders was not unique or isolated like I believed for so long.

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How Far Apart Were Your Legs?

by Joe Grundy in

several threads on here about the excellent bbc r4 programme this week ('the report') focussing on rape and abuse in barry, south wales, jws.

fat pervert mark sewell later got 14 years and i hope he is enjoying every minute of it.. the courageous ladies who spoke on the programme were articulate, reasonable and made a tremendous impression.. the quote in the thread title made an impression on me, and i hope, on all listeners.. forget religious, theological, 'biblical' issues and cut to the basics.

a rape victim was asked to demonstrate - to demonstrate, ffs - to three unqualified (middle-aged at least, presumably) men just how far her legs were apart when she was raped.. i have rarely heard anything so outrageous, and i used to investigate rape and abuse in my profession.

FreeGirl2006

Please do expose these men. Perhaps if they experience a fraction of the humiliation they force victims to go through, it will bring some compassion into their consciousness.

I remember as a 10 year old standing before 3 crusty men--mom not allowed to be in the room. I described in detail about being digitally penetrated and I was asked, "Are you sure he was not just showing you affection?" Really??? Really???? I shut down. Stopped talking. Went into my safe little fantasy world. I don't know how these men could sleep at night thinking they were doing the right thing. I wish mom had been there (and why wouldn't you allow a mother to be with her young child?) and had asked, "Is that how you show affection to your daughters?"

If only these jerks could be prosecuted for the way they treat abuse victims. They are almost as bad as the abusers. So yes, I vote expose them, shout it from the roof tops, because this is not an isolated incident of stupidity, it is a constant thread in the majority of abuse and rape and even plain old immorality "investigations" by the kangaroo courts sanctioned by this cult.

Even if this cult never dies, it would be gratifying to see them forced to stop perpetuating inhumane treatment upon victims.

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New BBC article on JW abuse

by snare&racket in

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is religion doing enough to root out abuse?.

he would go upstairs, on the premise that he was saying a prayer with his niece, then sexually abuse her.

mark sewell was sentenced to 14 years in prisonafterwards, the elders told her that as it was only her account against that of sewell, nothing more could be done.

FreeGirl2006

Adding to what Joe Grundy has said, these a**hats on the JCs traumatize the abuse victims further with their probing insensitive grilling. I know, as I was one of them and the questions they asked were unbelievable and not empathetic or caring in the least.

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Wonderful video resource which has to be seen in full to be appreciated.

by TerryWalstrom in

i highly recommend you watch this video.. it is superbly researched.

you know all the things in this video already--but.

watching it will create an impression on you which.

FreeGirl2006

Marking for later!

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Just Sharing a couple of experiences I heard in the last day or two about ones leaving the Borg.

by Crazyguy in

i was having breakfast with a friend and former jw just yesterday and he informed me that the place we were eating in is owned by a former witness.

the story goes as he tells me that the wife and husband or on the outs and getting a divorce.

now just so you know the state i live in, a divorce is not quick, mandatory waiting period etc.

FreeGirl2006

Even when they do show up it is rarely encouraging. My marriage was in the trash can right from the get-go so I asked for a "shepharding" call. What we got was a visit where I was told all the marital trouble was my fault because I went to work full-time (I had moved to another state when I married so I took a month off before finding a job to get settled in with first time marriage and being a full-time step mom). Now when this call came, I was the sole breadwinner for the family as the hubby had been laid off. I asked if they were going to pay the bills and support us. Guess I didn't win any friends with the eldubs that day.

Fast forward a year or two. We moved back to my state and home congregation. I asked repeatedly for a "shepherding" call. We got one about 5 years later when I told the hubby I was leaving if something didn't change in the marriage. One of the many issues was the lack of sex. Hubs brought the eldubs to the house to discuss my lack of scriptural grounds for leaving. I brought up the issue of no sex (hubs thought I would be too embarrassed to do so) and we were told that we just needed to go on a long weekend without the kids. No scriptures read, no empathy, no asking the obvious question of why he was not wanting sex (answer: he was too exhausted from his girlfriend(s) ), and I was told that it was my fault for not being a better JW. I got up from the table and said I was through with the encouragement and left the room. With love, kindness, compassion & advice like that who needs marriage counseling?

I am sure many people can thank eldubs like that for our exodus from the cult.

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Everything You Wanted to Know About Cart Witnessing But Were Afraid to Ask

by OrphanCrow in

orange county public witnessing has a website up and running.. http://ocpw.org/.

the pw "reminders" (rules) are simplified on this website:.

http://ocpw.weebly.com/reminders.html.

FreeGirl2006

I loved this post on one of those websites "One Tuesday morning session, Nicole and I counted 250 different people walk by our cart! That's a lot more than we would encounter door to door."

I wonder how many of those 250 different people even noticed or remembered seeing the cart ladies? Yes, you encountered more people, but did you make an impact?

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To DA or not to DA, that is the question?

by dubstepped in

let me preface this by saying that i don't expect anyone here to make my decision for me.

i do however note that like the bible says, in the multitude of counselors there is wisdom, and this is a huge decision, so i wanted to put it out there for discussion.

i really appreciate your words of wisdom, as this affects not just me but my wife also, as we find ourselves in the same boat.

FreeGirl2006

Just walk away and live your life. Why give them power over you? I was unwillingly dfd and lost friends and family, but gained incredible freedom. I wouldn't change it for anything, so I get the freedom aspect. Are you in a position to move away where you are unknown, so you can just get on with life?

I think they just announce that you are no longer a JW so people won't know that you willingly walked away (of course that could have changed since I was bounced out).

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A Day at the Circus--or is it A Day with the Dubs?

by FreeGirl2006 in

i recently was at the hospital visiting a dfd relative having her first baby.

a little background: baby mama and daddy are dfd for having sex.

thankfully they have not rushed into marriage because of the little package that has come along 9 months after their "transgression.

FreeGirl2006

I recently was at the hospital visiting a dfd relative having her first baby. A little background: Baby mama and daddy are dfd for having sex. Thankfully they have not rushed into marriage because of the little package that has come along 9 months after their "transgression." Some family members are sticking to the shunning and others have said, we want to be involved with the baby so we are going to use the necessary family biz to avoid the shunning. I am cool with the supportive relatives. The hard core ones just get on my nerves.

Anyway, the day the baby was born, I was in the room hanging out with baby, parents and other close family members when my SIL comes for a visit. She started sobbing very dramatically as soon as she walked in the room. No reason for it really, but hey, the day is all about her isn't it??? She is one of the ones trying to be hard core. Perhaps she felt guilty, I am not sure, but the drama was so inappropriate.

Then later comes my brother (her hubby). I have been feeling sorry for him because according to family members he is deeply depressed and I have been wondering if it is cognitive dissonance affecting him. I was curious to see if he would acknowledge me (barely) and then he just went and made an a**hole of himself in front of most of the family and nursing staff by saying over and over again that a broken femur (which he has had) hurts far worse than child birth (cause he would know?). I engaged him in some small talk to lessen the tension in the room and I got very rude dismissive treatment in return. He was barely polite to my boyfriend. Again, all behavior that would have been better left outside the hospital room.

JW family is so fun! Makes me glad I am being shunned by these people, as I find the lack of kindness and love in general to be a strain in the short run, I think I would go mad in the long run.

We did have some humor in the waiting room. JWs related to baby daddy were hanging out with my boyfriend and I. They didn't know I was once a dub so they kept trying subtle ways to witness. At one point one of them started a presentation right out of a meeting. I got up and walked off in the guise of stretching. I left my boyfriend behind. He is of Jewish decent and was once a Baptist minister (for approximately 20 years) and is now an atheist. He knows more about the Bible than a room full of average JWs and can and did handle himself. His approach was actually to avoid religion altogether and to ask some very deep questions to make the man reason. I think, at the very least, he really made the guy think for a brief period of time. Hopefully, he will do some research.

Of course, the most important part of the story is that baby & mama are doing great. Daddy is really doing a good job also. I have a new little angel to spoil!