i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
zenism thanks for your advice.
yep, reaching the heart is the key.
We've brought up 2 children in the troof
1child was born with severe disabilities and was very fragile, so we were forced to stop and think about what the society were saying re discipline.
thanks everyone for your loving advice
bernadette
i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
Have been re-reading everyone's posts and jw daughter you said
I have gently 'flicked' my kids foreheads when they do/say something they KNOW is rude or mean
I too believe in gentle touch to get attention. thanks for the reminder.
Also want to say that I have been in touch with the authorities and they were very helpful. Lots of suggestions.
The point they made was that as the smack to the baby was a one off I did not need to officially report it but they advised me to monitor the situation and if it happened again I should report it immediately. They said If I wasn't in a position to monitor it then they could do it. I chose the former for now, as I am close to the mother.
I have also since talked with the dad - it was an enlightening conversation.
1) find your 'crisis of conscience' and practice saying 'cognitive dissonace' in front of a mirror until it rolls of the tongue as easily as 'red herring', 'circular reasoning', strawman.
do not be put off by the rest of the family laughing at you and your dog using your leg as a latrine.
the knack is to make people think that you knew what all this information meant before you read the book.
Is that all it takes
i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
have a class, but will reply when I get back
i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
more guidance from the wts
WEEK
STARTINGMARCH19 - km'72Theme: Helping All to Benefit from the Ransom. Song 30.
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min: Introduction, text and comments. Include consideration of Branch Letter.20
min:Training Younger Ones to Sit Quietly and Listen. The audience can be asked to comment on following points: Why do we attend meetings? (Heb. 10:23-25) What do we learn from Deuteronomy 31:12? Parents are encouraged to bring children to meetings even though they are very young. They need to be at the meetings with us. Who has the responsibility to train children to sit quietly and listen at meetings? (Eph. 6:4; Prov. 29:15) Is worldly viewpoint of permissiveness in dealing with children in harmony with what is stated at Proverbs 22:15 and 23:13, 14? (It is to be expected that there will be some disturbances until newer ones are helped to apply Bible principles in training and disciplining children. Also, young ones may be "teething" or not feeling well, etc.) Why is consistent home training needed? How could children become confused if required to sit quietly only when at meetings and then not be given any discipline at home? Ask for suggestions as to how younger ones can be trained at home to sit quietly. (Perhaps mother can progressively train child to sit quietly while she does personal study, etc.) Consider principle at Matthew 5:37 and how it applies in home training, as well as at Kingdom Hall. Why would it be best not to provide children with noisy playthings to keep them occupied at the Kingdom Hall? Should library or some other place in Kingdom Hall be used as a playroom? Why would it be best to administer certain forms of discipline outside the main meeting area of the Kingdom Hall?Where necessary servants can talk to parents privately, giving warm encouragement and suggestions on training and discipline.
How much sitting quietly are small children capable of in a week. 5 meetings, ministry, home bible study and also more at home training
i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
Articles like the one below don't help the situation - w1988
Why
TrainFromInfancy?11
But when should parental training begin? The Bible says that Timothy received his training "from infancy." (2 Timothy 3:15) Interestingly, bre´phos, the Greek word here, is often used of an unborn child, as at Luke 1:41, 44. There the infant John was said to leap within his mother’s womb. But bre´phos is also used of the newborn Israelite babies whose lives were threatened in Egypt in the time Moses was born. (Acts 7:19, 20) In Timothy’s case, the word clearly refers to a mere infant, or baby, and not simply to a young child. Timothy received instruction from the holy writings from as far back as his memory could reach, from the time when he was only a baby. And with what fine results! (Philippians 2:19-22) Yet, can newborn babies really benefit from such early teaching?
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"One of the most exciting developments in the whole field of psychology is our new understanding of the great ability of the infant to learn," reported Dr. Edward Zigler, a professor at Yale University, in 1984. In fact, the magazine Health says: "Babies still in the womb may be able to see, hear, taste—and ‘feel’ emotions, new research suggests." Evidently, parents can never start too early to instruct their children. (Deuteronomy 31:12) They can start by showing their children pictures from books and sharing stories with them. "The crucial years," says Masaru Ibuka, author of the book KindergartenIsTooLate, "are the years from birth to three." This is because the young mind is especially malleable, absorbing information more easily, as is evidenced by an infant’s quick mastery of a new language. A professor in early childhood education at New York University even said that "parents should begin teaching kids to read the moment they bring them home from the hospital"!13
A mother from Canada writes regarding her child’s ability to learn: "One day I was reading a story from MyBookofBibleStories to my four-and-a-half-year-old son, Shaun. As I paused at one point, I found to my amazement that he began to continue the story, word for word, as it appears in the BibleStories book. . . . I tried another and then another, and he had memorized every one. . . . He has actually memorized, word for word, the first 33 stories, including difficult names of places and people."
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Those well acquainted with the potential of infants to learn are not surprised by such feats. "The world could be full of intellectual giants like Einstein, Shakespeare, Beethoven and Leonardo da Vinci if we taught babies instead of children," claims Dr. Glenn Doman, director of The Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential. Of course, the goal of Christian parents is not to produce intellectual giants but to reach the hearts of their children so that the children never depart from serving God. (Proverbs 22:6) Such efforts need to be made long before the child enters school, in order to prepare him for the tests he will face there. Kindergarten or day-care programs, for instance, feature birthday and holiday parties that can be fun for children. So the child needs to understand why Jehovah’s servants do not participate. Otherwise he may grow to hate his parents’ religion.
i am a rather old fogey on the matter - just black and hot.
but i like the occasional mocha.. what use of this universal bean is your favorite?
how many do you drink a week?
I'll have a venti light mocha frappaccino please.
'" (nrsv) "when they had all had enough to eat, he said to his disciples," (niv) clearly, being satisfied or having eaten all that one desired could not be said of eating a small fragment of an unleavened loaf.
the common view is that this means they had finished eating the meal and the pieces of the one loaf.
1 corinthians 5: 3 3 even though i am not with you in person, i am with you in the spirit.
thanks, abr. That's a lot of research you've done. I'm going to save it to use when the opportunity arises.
bernadette
i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
Nelly, What a nightmare your childhood must have been. Hugs to you and I'm glad u got out
Today parents are replaying the same nightmare over and over again. Congregations look on and give moral support to the abusive parents and yet JW's are ordinary people like us - its the situation they're in that creates the problems.
I've sat here wondering about the couple I want to help. I have to remind myself that its their choice to live that way.
All we can do is promote awareness whenever the opportunity comes up
bernadette
i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.
an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.
he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.
Gill you said
'All a child craves is its parents attention. Praise only and you soon get a well behaved child'
Children thrive on attention.
Nelly/Lady Lee
one parent flicks the ears of her 3 and 5 yr olds
Whyamihere
Take him or her into the bathroom, tell them to get all their ticks and naughtiness out in here and not out there
that's a good suggestion.
