Posts by bernadette

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Subject: KN #37 Has had an effect

by purplesofa in

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i got this from a witness yesterday.

don't know if it was already posted.. http://www.totalcatholic.com/universe/index.php?news_id=2056&start=0&catego.

ukraine sees friction between jehova's witnesses and mainstream christiansposted on january 03, 2007. .

i thought i should write a big thanks to simon for this board, not only has it been a big eye-opener to me regarding my past and helped me realise how many people have been through the same stuff as i have, but it's through this board that i've met a wonderful woman, michelle (calico ethel).. michelle is beautiful, intelligent, funny and luckily for me has terrible eyesight, i feel very fortunate to have met her and hopefully (presuming i can keep on hiding her glasses!

) we shall be very happy together in the future.

she has rather recklessly and bravely agreed to move in with me and is moving over at the beginning of february.

bernadette

congratulations

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The Borg

by Jehovah-1 in

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greetings friends

i have once heard the christian watchtower society described as the borg, (a reference to the work of the late gene roddenberry) and my good friend who is still hopelessly trapped in a new form of lies (more christendom crap) is now professing something similar in this new "christ preaching" stuff.

why not return to the true jewish roots of the bible if one is going to actually be a bible student?

bernadette

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Were You A Victim Of The Watchtower Movement?

by The wanderer in

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were you a victim of the watchtower movement?if you were captive to an ideology known as the truth, being enslaved .

has taught you the harsh realities of life and its deceptive practices.. however, what advice could you offer someone who .... wants to get their life back on track?there are individuals here who are getting or have gotten their .

lives together or back on track.

bernadette

Off the top of my head, my advice would be to see yourself as a survivor.

'Imagine that you have just this minute survived the tsunami what would your thoughts be' - and I would then encourage that frame of mind.

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JWs came to my door, and I really dissappointed myself

by jwfacts in

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today i was woken by two 20 something year old jw guys.

i let them offer the mags and then told them i was not interested in religion.

after the reasoning book comeback i told them i was a jw but left a year ago.

bernadette

perhaps one of them one day in the not too distant future will remember what you said and feel prompted to go away do some research

by the way your website is excellent

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Disciplining babies?

by bernadette in

i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.

an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.

he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.

bernadette

zenism thanks for your advice.

yep, reaching the heart is the key.

We've brought up 2 children in the troof

1child was born with severe disabilities and was very fragile, so we were forced to stop and think about what the society were saying re discipline.

thanks everyone for your loving advice

bernadette

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Disciplining babies?

by bernadette in

i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.

an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.

he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.

bernadette

Have been re-reading everyone's posts and jw daughter you said

I have gently 'flicked' my kids foreheads when they do/say something they KNOW is rude or mean

I too believe in gentle touch to get attention. thanks for the reminder.

Also want to say that I have been in touch with the authorities and they were very helpful. Lots of suggestions.

The point they made was that as the smack to the baby was a one off I did not need to officially report it but they advised me to monitor the situation and if it happened again I should report it immediately. They said If I wasn't in a position to monitor it then they could do it. I chose the former for now, as I am close to the mother.

I have also since talked with the dad - it was an enlightening conversation.

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Six Steps To XJW Freedom

by hillary_step in

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1) find your 'crisis of conscience' and practice saying 'cognitive dissonace' in front of a mirror until it rolls of the tongue as easily as 'red herring', 'circular reasoning', strawman.

do not be put off by the rest of the family laughing at you and your dog using your leg as a latrine.

the knack is to make people think that you knew what all this information meant before you read the book.

bernadette

Is that all it takes

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Disciplining babies?

by bernadette in

i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.

an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.

he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.

bernadette

have a class, but will reply when I get back

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Disciplining babies?

by bernadette in

i'd appreciate advice.. i remember when i was pregnant the following exp was given at a district convention.

an elder said that he started discipling his child from 9 months.

he said whenever the 9 month old made a noise or cried at the meeting he would squeeze her.

bernadette

more guidance from the wts

WEEK

STARTINGMARCH19 - km'72

Theme: Helping All to Benefit from the Ransom. Song 30.

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min: Introduction, text and comments. Include consideration of Branch Letter.

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min:Training Younger Ones to Sit Quietly and Listen. The audience can be asked to comment on following points: Why do we attend meetings? (Heb. 10:23-25) What do we learn from Deuteronomy 31:12? Parents are encouraged to bring children to meetings even though they are very young. They need to be at the meetings with us. Who has the responsibility to train children to sit quietly and listen at meetings? (Eph. 6:4; Prov. 29:15) Is worldly viewpoint of permissiveness in dealing with children in harmony with what is stated at Proverbs 22:15 and 23:13, 14? (It is to be expected that there will be some disturbances until newer ones are helped to apply Bible principles in training and disciplining children. Also, young ones may be "teething" or not feeling well, etc.) Why is consistent home training needed? How could children become confused if required to sit quietly only when at meetings and then not be given any discipline at home? Ask for suggestions as to how younger ones can be trained at home to sit quietly. (Perhaps mother can progressively train child to sit quietly while she does personal study, etc.) Consider principle at Matthew 5:37 and how it applies in home training, as well as at Kingdom Hall. Why would it be best not to provide children with noisy playthings to keep them occupied at the Kingdom Hall? Should library or some other place in Kingdom Hall be used as a playroom? Why would it be best to administer certain forms of discipline outside the main meeting area of the Kingdom Hall?

Where necessary servants can talk to parents privately, giving warm encouragement and suggestions on training and discipline.

How much sitting quietly are small children capable of in a week. 5 meetings, ministry, home bible study and also more at home training