this is a question i've had for a long time.. according to the biblical account, adam and eve's sin was to eat fruit from the forbidden tree.. now, ordinarily, when we get caught doing something "wrong," we try to hide the "offending" member (the child tries to hide his hand that has the 'stolen' cookie; we hurriedly try to pull our pants back on when mom walks in unexpectedly while we're masturbating, etc.)..
so, if the "sin" of adam and eve was eating a forbidden fruit, then why wasn't their first impulse to hide their hands?
or to wipe off their mouths?
And why wouldn't it have been a screaming neanderthal baby or such?
facinating isn't it. The neanderthals have all disappeared - No wonder mankind is so wracked with guilt, pathos and the need of/to rescue. What I would give to go back in time and see for myself
this is a question i've had for a long time.. according to the biblical account, adam and eve's sin was to eat fruit from the forbidden tree.. now, ordinarily, when we get caught doing something "wrong," we try to hide the "offending" member (the child tries to hide his hand that has the 'stolen' cookie; we hurriedly try to pull our pants back on when mom walks in unexpectedly while we're masturbating, etc.)..
so, if the "sin" of adam and eve was eating a forbidden fruit, then why wasn't their first impulse to hide their hands?
or to wipe off their mouths?
Hey onacruse
just had a moment from needproof's topic 'Isn't it amazing how Christinas ignore the OT'
Animal sacrifices and appeasement - that fits too with the alienation - what we once were and now what we are. The Cain and Able story too. wow.
Don't know if I'm making sense. Somebody pls help
this is a question i've had for a long time.. according to the biblical account, adam and eve's sin was to eat fruit from the forbidden tree.. now, ordinarily, when we get caught doing something "wrong," we try to hide the "offending" member (the child tries to hide his hand that has the 'stolen' cookie; we hurriedly try to pull our pants back on when mom walks in unexpectedly while we're masturbating, etc.)..
so, if the "sin" of adam and eve was eating a forbidden fruit, then why wasn't their first impulse to hide their hands?
or to wipe off their mouths?
Hi onacruse
I'm also kinda looking at things from the perspective of tetra and jt.
Madame quixote you raised an interesting very pertinent point.
Cos the non hairy humans would have viewed the hariy animals as game and food eventually. So I wonder how that transition of once being one of 'them' and then killing - what one once was- impacted on their sense of alienation too.
there must have been a time when humans started to see themselves as humans and not as animals. Human culture must also have started to develop with all of its ramifications.
So for me the nakedness aspect has something to do with the furriness and non furriness issue as it developed
bernadette
ok, so sparkplug says i have to start a thread.
she says that since i'm using her computer, i have to write something.. so...here i am.
i'm cretia.
Hi Creita and welcome
Any friend of sparky's is a friend of mine.
I think your gonna enjoy being here.
bernadette
thank you for this place in cyber space, this is therapy for me.
there is something about writing things down, that helps put things in perspective........ the day i left it was pouring rain........i really screwed up, i found out the night before, as i was packing things up, that i had way under estimated how much stuff i had.
i had two large suit cases (that i could barely shut the lids on) and a large army duffel bag.
thanks for continuing your story bruv
- hope grandma is doin okay. Love to her
bernadette
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6411991.stm .
skywatchers eagerly awaiting saturday's total lunar eclipse say that the spectacle could be the "best in years".
the eclipse begins at 2018 gmt, with the moon totally immersed in the shadow of the earth between 2244 and 2358 gmt.
trying to picture myself in an ancient civilization going beserk at the sight
i was having a look at the accounts of three local congs as i had heard a bit about the borg beginning to run low on cash as donations are falling.
locally, i was very surprised to see the cash flow problems of these congregations.
i had a look at other areas and saw that there were a minority making a small 'profit', a lot breaking even when it comes to contributions and a fair amount that are losing the plot financially.. congregation 1. accounts for 2005/06 income was short 19,000, yes, their expenditure was that much over their income.. congregation 2. accounts for 2005/06 income was short 11,000.. congregation3.
So is that why congregations regularly give money to the World Wide Work fund, to avoid having their accounts audited?
they are very lets take advantage of whatever loopholes there are for the benefit of jehovah's Org - They must have something going on - would be interesting to find it.
There was one instance where one of the Bethel vans knocked into a poor bethelites car - the car was a write off - the sad thing is bethel hadn't insured the van to cut corners.
well, i thought i'd start a fluff thread for once, so i'm posting here some of my favorite photos from my many trips over the years.
i hope you enjoy them and they inspire you to take awesome pictures on your own travels (or even your own backyard).
[edited to add...let's hope this formatting helps...jgnat].
Thanks Leo ......... amazing world we live in
i'm an evolutionist.
one cannot argue that evolution isn't a fact.
however, i'd be interested in the better informed amongst us here explaining in simple terms how the feeling of love evolved.
I was thinking of altruism in terms of sharing, cooperating to attain a mutually beneficial goal, and helping others to help themselves to as much independence as they can manage in the short term, and with an eye on the long term good coming out of it for everybody.
Buit Terry your post is a wake up call because it so easy - if one does not stop and think rationally, to become ensnared with half baked ideas through which we sabotage ourselves and allow damaging ideas to grow - the wts- that also damage those around us.
So thank you Terry for taking the time to explain altruism as to its core definition.
i was having a look at the accounts of three local congs as i had heard a bit about the borg beginning to run low on cash as donations are falling.
locally, i was very surprised to see the cash flow problems of these congregations.
i had a look at other areas and saw that there were a minority making a small 'profit', a lot breaking even when it comes to contributions and a fair amount that are losing the plot financially.. congregation 1. accounts for 2005/06 income was short 19,000, yes, their expenditure was that much over their income.. congregation 2. accounts for 2005/06 income was short 11,000.. congregation3.
Gill
I found out what below threshold means
When income goes above a certain level then the accounts have to audited.
