Posts by nonamegiven

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Having a hard time with this, what to do, what to do

by nonamegiven in

for those who don't know my story (look up past posts, i posted it) here's the cliff's notes.. i was df'd about 10 weeks ago for things other than apostacy.

i plan in being reinstated to keep communication with my family (wife and i were raised in the........tr......tru.........truth) so i am still going to the meetings.. well, for any that don't know my wife had a baby thursday woo-hoo!

anyway, the cong we are in is actually fairly loving and it's quite a shock to me since it's very different from what i have experienced for the last 30+ years.

nonamegiven

"May he never carry a microphone."

That's hillarious! LOL. I hope he never does.

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transcript of a disfellowship appeal meeting -they can get you for anything

by jwfacts in

i have just received the transcript of the disfellowship appeal meeting from a person i know from a recording he took.

it is quite typical in the condescension of the elders.

unfortunately he did not record the initial meeting.

nonamegiven

" No, I’m sorry. I really don’t mean to be disrespectful, but I really honestly feel that this is designed to purely get me out and not designed to try to help me."

And THIS my friends, is the bottom line. My JC was just an opportunity to punish and NOT to help. When I was at my JC and for a day or two after I was 100% receptive to any help they may have offered, in fact really looking for that help. When I quickly realized that they weren't trying to help me that really pushed me away. Then the doubts I'd been pushing away for many years surfaced and I started to research them.

Here I am now. I see where the JW brand of help led me and for that, I am truly greatful.

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I just emailed the Dr. Phil show

by J-ex-W in

i just emailed the dr. phil show with significant aspects of my story--not just the jw stuff but with being a large part of the complicated picture and said i would be willing to air my issues on their show.

the hidden horrors of marital sex abuse and of sleep-rape, specifically, must be exposed to the general public.

too many believe that it's not even possible to rape a sleeping woman...and they are soooo wrong, as my firsthand experience attests!!!

nonamegiven

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did you ever get cheated

by sspo in

i have bought and sold and refinanced homes for over 25 years and never had any problem at all using " worldly people" and their businesses.. the only time i tried to use a brother ( an elder ) it was a big fiasco.. everything went wrong and i threatned to turn him in to the authority because of his cheating and lying and unethical way of doing business.. luckily i caught it before the closing and did not go thru with it but at least 5 other families got screwed out of 1000's , money that was needed badly.. .

he is still serving as an elder .

did you have similar experience and get to a point that you did not want to use the brothers anymore?.

nonamegiven

I a certified mechanic and for years I did lots of work for the "friends", most of the time I didn't charge anything but I would accept what they had to offer. I remember doing suspension rebuilds (a few days of solid work there) for a dinner at thier house. That didn't tick me off because I didn't ask for anything. But there were 2 times I did MAJOR work on a car including an engine rebuild. I never got anything besides a thank you. There have been a few other times that I was actually screwed by JW's but no more than "worldly people". But, aren't JW's supposed to be better than the world??

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Puke Alert! Today's Daily Text.....

by AK - Jeff in

monday, december 18. .

moseswasbyfarthemeekestofallthemenwhowereuponthesurfaceoftheground.num.12:3.. among the many bible examples that highlight how humble people are favored with a glimpse of gods glory is moses, who enjoyed an intimate relationship with god.

this humble man, who spent 40 years as a lowly shepherd, likely much of it on the arabian peninsula, was highly favored by the creator in many ways.

nonamegiven

I haven't read the text in soo long I can't remember. That's one reason I don't, even though it is a scripture that is being considered, it's not necessarly a scriptural discussion.

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Having a hard time with this, what to do, what to do

by nonamegiven in

for those who don't know my story (look up past posts, i posted it) here's the cliff's notes.. i was df'd about 10 weeks ago for things other than apostacy.

i plan in being reinstated to keep communication with my family (wife and i were raised in the........tr......tru.........truth) so i am still going to the meetings.. well, for any that don't know my wife had a baby thursday woo-hoo!

anyway, the cong we are in is actually fairly loving and it's quite a shock to me since it's very different from what i have experienced for the last 30+ years.

nonamegiven

I've been giving this a lot of thought. I will not call the PO and ask that these folks not bring meals over. Like I said, my wife is still very devout and needs that association and I don't think it's right for me to deny her of that when afterall, this situation is after all because of my actions.

But I WILL NOT be humilated in my own home and as someone said, in front of my own kids. I will not be overly friendly to them but I will act as I would if anyone one of you came to my house offering to help my family. If they can't take me being polite, then it is up to them to deal with it. In the end, I hope they will realize it is them that is acting in an unatural and un Christ-like way, not me.

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Having a hard time with this, what to do, what to do

by nonamegiven in

for those who don't know my story (look up past posts, i posted it) here's the cliff's notes.. i was df'd about 10 weeks ago for things other than apostacy.

i plan in being reinstated to keep communication with my family (wife and i were raised in the........tr......tru.........truth) so i am still going to the meetings.. well, for any that don't know my wife had a baby thursday woo-hoo!

anyway, the cong we are in is actually fairly loving and it's quite a shock to me since it's very different from what i have experienced for the last 30+ years.

nonamegiven

To answer some questions, I thought I was prepared for a year of this crap. Now I'm not sure if I can do a year. I do know that if it were to go longer than a year I will not make it and I'll be full apostate for sure. I was thinking about begging reinstatment in a few weeks just to see what happens.

Avid, thanks for that info. I knew there was very little if any evidence in the bible about DF'ing and now that I have it I can add it to my database of info I'll use later.

Another reason I'm not sure if I can do this is that I fear my wife will find out about my findings and will label me apostate and maybe even turn me in to the borganization.

Man, I don't know, my head is just spinning right now.

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Having a hard time with this, what to do, what to do

by nonamegiven in

for those who don't know my story (look up past posts, i posted it) here's the cliff's notes.. i was df'd about 10 weeks ago for things other than apostacy.

i plan in being reinstated to keep communication with my family (wife and i were raised in the........tr......tru.........truth) so i am still going to the meetings.. well, for any that don't know my wife had a baby thursday woo-hoo!

anyway, the cong we are in is actually fairly loving and it's quite a shock to me since it's very different from what i have experienced for the last 30+ years.

nonamegiven

For those who don't know my story (look up past posts, I posted it) here's the cliff's notes.

I was DF'd about 10 weeks ago for things other than apostacy. I plan in being reinstated to keep communication with my family (wife and I were raised in the........tr......tru.........truth) so I am still going to the meetings.

Well, for any that don't know my wife had a baby Thursday WOO-HOO! Anyway, the cong we are in is actually fairly loving and it's quite a shock to me since it's very different from what I have experienced for the last 30+ years. So here's the deal. Now that the baby is here for folks (I don't use the term friends in reference to them, even to my wife, subtle tactics for sure haha) at the hall want to stop by to see the little man. A lady (again, no sister of mine) stopped by, said hi to my wife, 3 kids and my freakin dog but didn't even acknowledge my existance. That was hard to be shunned in my own home. Now that really pissed me off. After this week the folks at the hall will be bringing meals over for the family for the next 2 weeks. I hate being treated as sub-human at the hall and I don't know how I will handle being treated like this at my own house. I want to call the PO and tell him I'd rather not have these meals provided for us but I know my wife wants/needs the fellowship of these people.

I can keep myself busy with work in the garage or basement till they leave but why the he!! should I have to hide from these people in my own house!?!? Should I just grow up, and deal with this situation for now for the sake of my wife or buck the system?

On a side note, I am beginning to wonder if I can keep this charade up and keep walking the walk of shame for soo many more months tilll I get reinstated. It's getting harder and harder every meeting. Is this what true worship is all about?

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Oops.... I Did It Again!

by evetteto in

well i'm really feeling down about jumping all over my husband with all this new info i find here.

i'm really upset with myself because i dont want to use this info in a negative way ( as to say aha!...told you so ), but as a means to enlighten him, because of my love for him i had the hoove in mouth disease.

nonamegiven

I don't know exactly what your situation is but it sounds similar to mine. I was raised in the.....truth (hard to type that) and married a woman raised the same. Now I'm DF'd and learning tons of real truth. I have a strong urge to let the flood gates open and tell her everything, like I"m sure you do. But let me say this, patience my friend, patience. If you open up on him he will label you apostate quicker than you can say United Nations Scandal. Then he will do what comes naturally, he will defend his faith with fervor like never before. This will make his faith stronger by reinforcing the things he believes as well as proving that the scociety was right, that he will be persecuted for his faith. Worst of all, he will distance himself from you, at least in terms of religion, and if you EVER want to make head-way, this is not good.

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I thought I was alone

by elinor in

i just could not believe it when i stumbled across this forum recently.

i was actually doing research for my dad who wanted to see the world's viewpoint of the failed 1975 prophecy.

he came into the truth less than three years ago and though my mom has been a witness since she was a teenager she never spoke of that particular time period to him.

nonamegiven

I'm new here as well. I've had doubts my whole like but was a good little lemming and put those away. Well, they surfaced and after I was DF'd (2 months ago or so) I decided to start looking into things. You will surely be shocked when you learn much of the history. Research the UN issue, you will be pissed, then read Rutherford's interview related to Beth Sarim and you will laugh.