I can't sing them. I will sometimes just move my mouth making sure I get the "F" "T" and "S" on cue so the brothers who will judge my repentance think I'm singing.
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Did you stop singing the songs BEFORE you stopped going to meetings?
by zack inafter i found out the truth abouth the troof, i could not--- i mean physically could not---- sing a note of a jw song at a meeting.. this was way before i decided to make a plan and a final break.
this happen to anyone?.
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I'm so happy we talked
by nonamegiven inwell, for those that read my first bunch of posts, you know what i'm going through and where i've been.
well, i decided to talk to my wife friday night about my spiritual views.
i told her that the df think has be totally turned off.
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nonamegiven
Well, for those that read my first bunch of posts, you know what I'm going through and where I've been. Well, I decided to talk to my wife Friday night about my spiritual views.
I told her that the DF think has be totally turned off. I gave her a quick summary of how the society handles things and how this differes from the biblical way it was handled. I also told her that I am going to turn in my letter for reinstatment and that there is a very good chance I'll walk away. She asked why I'm going to be reinstated if I don't believe that the society is the right way to Jehovah. I told her I want to be reinstated regardless of my beliefs. I want to be reinstated because my family and friends was taken from me because of my actions. I've since been forgiven these actions, I've done EVERYTHING in my power to make ammends for these and am doing EVERYTHING in my power to make sure these things are behind me. by definition I no longer deserve to be disfellowshipped and now I want my family back. I told her that I simply won't allow anyone to take these things from me and if I were to walk away from it now I'm admitting defeat.
She doesn't know where I stand on many, many doctrines just DF'ing but she does know that I have many doubts. She said she will respect my decision as long as I do hers. We've discussed this before to a limited extent but this is the first time I've laid it out for her and let her know she'll more than likely (read WILL) be doing this alone in the future. I also told her that if my request is denied I will more than likley walk away. She also agreed that if the elders ask her any questions about me her answers are to be "fine", "I don't know" or "you should ask Brother NoNameGiven" and that's it.
Progress indeed..........
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You and your double.
by LtCmd.Lore inhypothetical situation: one day you wake up, and when you get up and turn around you see that you are still lying in your bed.
tada there are now two of you.. i'm not talking like a twin, or clone... i mean an double, you and the other you both have the exact same memories, skills, likes, dislikes, goals and personality.. would you get along?
would you hate each other?
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nonamegiven
I'd surf here and maybe he'd get some $h!t done at work for me.
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Wanted to share this sunset with you all, took photos
by needproof inalthough i could not get the ball of the sun in the shots, here is an indication of what it was just like for us, very beautiful!
i hope this shows how beautiful it was for us!
6pm local time.
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nonamegiven
amazing
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My husbands observation...
by megsmomma inwe were just discussing the whole thing about how only those jw's that live through the big a will be able to still be sexual beings and pro-create.
he said that the society is useing our most natural desires to scare everyone into staying in the org and hoping, above all else to live through the big "a".
and i was saying to him that if i still believed what they taught, i would kill him and my baby to save them.
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nonamegiven
Can someone PLEASE show me where this is taught??? I want to show my wife one day.
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What do you do with your time???
by nonamegiven inwell, now that you are out of the organization, what do you do with the time you gained?
let's see how much time we gained.. assuming you were a publisher you spend at least 2 hours in service 3 saturdays a month plus the service meeting and drive time to and from the kh, let's call that 10 hours a month.. 5 meetings a week plus "fellowshipping" before, after and drive time, let's call that another 40 hours a month.. then there was meeting prep.
another 8 hours a month.
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nonamegiven
Well, now that you are out of the organization, what do you do with the time you gained? Let's see how much time we gained.
Assuming you were a publisher you spend at least 2 hours in service 3 saturdays a month plus the service meeting and drive time to and from the KH, let's call that 10 hours a month.
5 meetings a week plus "fellowshipping" before, after and drive time, let's call that another 40 hours a month.
Then there was meeting prep. another 8 hours a month
I won't even get into the time involved if you were a MS, Elder or Pioneer.
So, you have gained about 58 hours a month, what do you do with it?? I haven't gained those hours yet but soon will. I plan on spending some of that time excercising and getting back on my mountain bike to get back in shape physically and time in the garage getting my race car back on the track to get my head back in shape. Oh, there is one other thing I think I will be doing with that time, something you were not supposed to do with that time before. I'm going to think for myself.
Edited because my math sucked.
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My reinstatment letter part deux
by nonamegiven inwell, a while ago i posted a letter i wrote requesting reinstatment.
i waited a while and decided it's time to give it to the guys.
i'm going to give it to them tomorrow night.
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nonamegiven
Thank you all for your help. I took OTWO's letter and changed just a few things to suit my personality better.
I do hope there are no elders from my congo on this board but if there are, oh well. I've been DF'd for about 7 months now and this is my first request. If they deny it then I think I will just walk. I want to be reinstated to gain family ties and friends but I'm not going to do this for a year or better. I lived 2 lives for WAY too long in regards to my addiction and I want nothing more than to just live MY life and be a better person.
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My reinstatment letter part deux
by nonamegiven inwell, a while ago i posted a letter i wrote requesting reinstatment.
i waited a while and decided it's time to give it to the guys.
i'm going to give it to them tomorrow night.
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Well, a while ago I posted a letter I wrote requesting reinstatment. I waited a while and decided it's time to give it to the guys. I'm going to give it to them tomorrow night. Here's my final (?) version.
I am writing this letter to request reinstatement. While this time of discipline has been hard for myself as well as my family, it has proven Hebrews 12:11 true to me. In the last number of months I have had much work to do. Despite increasing work loads and family commitments, it is clear to myself and my family that I have made great strides. I have found a new level of respect for Jehovah and his laws. I find myself praying to him not only more often now, but much more heartfelt than I knew was even possible a year or so ago. I study for more meetings now than I have for quite a few years and while I would rather not travel for work, I am happy to attend meetings while on the road or get in on the “phone hook-up” when I can’t attend. If I were asked what has helped me to achieve these goals (and others) I would have a complex answer. I first had to fully realize that as Hebrews 12:6 says, Jehovah disciplines those who he loves. This was a major help and comfort for me. I had to follow the admonition at Col. 3:5 and deaden my body members.
I prayed to Jehovah for help beating this problem of mine for years to no avail. I thought I didn’t deserve his help or holy spirit and allowed myself to slip further into my addiction. It was only a year or so ago that I realized I couldn’t stop this without Jehovah and he wouldn’t stop this without me.I had to pour myself into recovery first, only then was I able to feel the peace that comes from pleasing Jehovah. As I did that, I soon noticed my life changing for the better. I prayed, and still pray to Jehovah continually and I feel from my heart that I have been forgiven by Jehovah. Feeling him in my life and feeling him help heal me is evidence of his great love and mercy.
Through prayer and counseling, I am able to keep making strides. I also keep Col. 3:7 in mind, “In those very things you, to, once walked when you used to live in them”. I can finally say I “once walked” like that. You can have no idea what that feels like. After a lifetime of failing to control oneself, after failed attempts to stop doing something you don’t even WANT to do, after a lifetime of this to finally be able to say that I am living as Jah commanded is a blessing I didn’t know was possible. Only with Jehovah’s help and an intense amount of work have I been able to stop my addictive behavior. As I stated to you brothers some months ago, I never wanted to do the things I have done. I have been in counseling for some time now because I recognized the fact that I was indeed powerless to my addiction. I deeply regret what I have done to myself, to my family, to Jehovah and his congregation. I don’t know if I can ever remove the reproach I have brought on him and his congregation and I feel great sorrow for this.
With this changed attitude I began to truly change my life in more ways than one. So now I can humbly ask to be reinstated into the Christian congregation so I can experience Jehovah’s love and forgiveness openly with my brothers and sisters.any further sugestions?
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Should I wait to be questioned by the elders? or take my leave in advance?
by Thinking of Leaving inhi everyone, i recently joined this forum as i'm close to being df.
i am suppose to meet with a judical committee soon but was thinking that i don't want to go through those personal questions that i'm sure the elders would ask.
does anyone know, is it better to just tell the elders before, say like on the phone, that i want to be df and not go through the committee?
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nonamegiven
Like I said, I have been a part of 2 JC meetings. I had questions like:
Where did you touch her
Where did she touch you
Did you have an erection
Was she sexually excited
Did you enjoy it
Did she enjoy it
Did you reach climax
Did she reach climax
How many times
How often
What clothes were removed and by whome
Could you see her genitals
and the list goes on. These two JC meetins were at different congo's and a decade apart.
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km arrangement?
by carla inexplain the km thing to me will you?
why do they withhold it from some?
i would think it would help those 'weak' ones get their butts out there more, no?
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nonamegiven
Well, I'm DF'd and they didn't have the balls to even tell me i wouldn't get one. My wife got one and I didn't. The KM is only for publishers, of wich I'm not one of course. Here's what'd even dumberer. They won't give you one but your wife can photo copy it for you. I told her I don't want one. If they won't give me one then I'm not worthy of the upbuilding information and encouraging articles held therin.
It's just another method of control. One more thin they can take away from you. Screw them!