Posts by NanaR

after an informal poll in my congregation (and many awkward responses) i found out that almost nobody had read the whole bible ever, not even the elders (surprise!).

brothers and sisters with 20, 30, 40 and 50 years as jws don't know what the bible says.

so, if god decides that a test is coming, will they pass it?

NanaR

Yes, I read the entire Protestant Bible when I was a JW. I am now rereading it and including the deuterocanonical books.

When I was a little girl, my dad got the whole family out of bed at 5:30 every morning to read the Bible together. Yes, we were JWs. My mom was 4th generation.

Since I have been attending the Catholic Church, I am finding so much more meaning in the Bible. All those scriptures that I read over the years actually make sense to me now!

Pax,

Ruth

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C. T. Russell and the Trinity Doctrine

by NanaR in

i have a question.. i know that russell's hallmark was "putting the hose on hell", so i'm assuming that the belief that humans do not have an immortal soul was also one of his early teachings.. however, i know that russell used the symbol of the cross, celebrated christmas, and that the early bible students also fellowshipped with other christians.

my grandmother, for example, attended a baptist church on sundays but went to bible student group studies with her father through the week.. so i am wondering about the witnesses rejection of the trinity doctrine.

did russell outspokenly reject the trinity doctrine?

NanaR

Thanks JWFacts!

I find very little about the Watchtower organization to inspire me to believe that they know what they are talking about. And with so many grave errors in their teaching, I am certainly not going to conclude that they just happen to be right about the nature of God and the nature of the Son of God...

I hope you had a happy holiday, and that you have a blessed New Year!

Ruth

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C. T. Russell and the Trinity Doctrine

by NanaR in

i have a question.. i know that russell's hallmark was "putting the hose on hell", so i'm assuming that the belief that humans do not have an immortal soul was also one of his early teachings.. however, i know that russell used the symbol of the cross, celebrated christmas, and that the early bible students also fellowshipped with other christians.

my grandmother, for example, attended a baptist church on sundays but went to bible student group studies with her father through the week.. so i am wondering about the witnesses rejection of the trinity doctrine.

did russell outspokenly reject the trinity doctrine?

NanaR

JWfacts:

I expect that their assertion that there is only one archangel is connected to how they want to apply it to Jesus.

The deuterocanonical book of Tobit identifies another archangel -- Raphael -- but of course JWs do not accept that book as inspired.

I find the idea that Almighty God plucked one of his angels out of heaven and "transferred his life" to earth to be very strange and not at all satisfying. But the idea that God Himself (the eternally begotten Son) came to earth and was born as a man, suffered, and died for ME and all mankind is just beyond awesome. I can love the Suffering God on the Cross. I spent years being angry with the God who sat in heaven and sent an angel to do his "dirty work".

Pax,

Ruth

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C. T. Russell and the Trinity Doctrine

by NanaR in

i have a question.. i know that russell's hallmark was "putting the hose on hell", so i'm assuming that the belief that humans do not have an immortal soul was also one of his early teachings.. however, i know that russell used the symbol of the cross, celebrated christmas, and that the early bible students also fellowshipped with other christians.

my grandmother, for example, attended a baptist church on sundays but went to bible student group studies with her father through the week.. so i am wondering about the witnesses rejection of the trinity doctrine.

did russell outspokenly reject the trinity doctrine?

NanaR

Atlantis:

Wow!! This is perfect ;-)

JWfacts:

Thank you ;-)

I love you guys!!!

Ruth

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Jesus the archangel Michael? No.

by mdb in

jesus the archangel michael?

1 thess 4:16 (daniel 10:13).

the watchtower teaches that michael is the only archangel (aid to bible understanding).

NanaR

Hi all. I have a question related to the teaching of the Witnesses that Jesus is the Archangel Michael. Does anyone know when this began to be taught by them?

I have checked the Watchtower CD, and found a specific dogmatic reference from 1954 there.

Did this teaching originate at the same time that the Witnesses started talking about worship of Jesus being "relative"?

Thanks!

Ruth

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C. T. Russell and the Trinity Doctrine

by NanaR in

i have a question.. i know that russell's hallmark was "putting the hose on hell", so i'm assuming that the belief that humans do not have an immortal soul was also one of his early teachings.. however, i know that russell used the symbol of the cross, celebrated christmas, and that the early bible students also fellowshipped with other christians.

my grandmother, for example, attended a baptist church on sundays but went to bible student group studies with her father through the week.. so i am wondering about the witnesses rejection of the trinity doctrine.

did russell outspokenly reject the trinity doctrine?

NanaR

JWFacts and Atlantis:

You guys are great!!!

Someone on another board has asked me where the JWs came up with the idea that Jesus was Michael the Archangel. I am not sure when they first started teaching that, but I surmised that it had to be after they discarded the Diety of Christ as a concept.

Atlantis, I'll be watching for that scan ;-)

Thanks so much!

Ruth

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C. T. Russell and the Trinity Doctrine

by NanaR in

i have a question.. i know that russell's hallmark was "putting the hose on hell", so i'm assuming that the belief that humans do not have an immortal soul was also one of his early teachings.. however, i know that russell used the symbol of the cross, celebrated christmas, and that the early bible students also fellowshipped with other christians.

my grandmother, for example, attended a baptist church on sundays but went to bible student group studies with her father through the week.. so i am wondering about the witnesses rejection of the trinity doctrine.

did russell outspokenly reject the trinity doctrine?

NanaR

I have a question.

I know that Russell's hallmark was "putting the hose on Hell", so I'm assuming that the belief that humans do not have an immortal soul was also one of his early teachings.

However, I know that Russell used the symbol of the Cross, celebrated Christmas, and that the early Bible students also fellowshipped with other Christians. My grandmother, for example, attended a Baptist Church on Sundays but went to Bible Student group studies with her father through the week.

So I am wondering about the Witnesses rejection of the Trinity doctrine. Did Russell outspokenly reject the Trinity doctrine? Did he accept the Diety of Christ but not the Trinity, or accept or reject both?

I'm trying to figure out if rejection of the Trinity was a Russell teaching from the beginning, or if Rutherford rejected the Trinity and/or Diety of Christ at the same time that he insisted that the Bible Students be called Jehovah's Witnesses.

Can one of you good researchers point me in the direction of an answer to this question?

If I still had my parents library, I could look for myself. But its 400 miles away at my JW sister's house.

Thanks!

Ruth

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I thought dubs were not supposed to be on the interwebs...

by Priest73 in

i found this an got a kick out of it...

http://crlwk.com/aboutme.aspx

NanaR

That site is giving me flashbacks...

UGH!

Ruth