Posts by bobld

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HAVE YOU WONDERED? Pubic WT of Oct 1.2008 page 31

by bobld in

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"you may have heard that jehovah's witnesses do not accept blood transfusions.this scriptural stand is often misunderstood.their stand is based on the fundamental law that god gave to mankind.just after the flood of noah's day.god imposed this one restriction.they were not to consume blood.

(genesis 9:3,4)it was never recinded.

over eight centuries later,god reaffirmed that law to the nation of israel,explaining that the blood is sacred, representing the soul,or life itself.

bobld

"You may have heard that Jehovah's Witnesses do not accept blood transfusions.This Scriptural stand is often misunderstood.Their stand is based on the fundamental law that God gave to mankind.Just after the Flood of Noah's day.God imposed this one restriction.They were not to consume blood.(Genesis 9:3,4)It was never recinded. Over eight centuries later,God reaffirmed that law to the nation of Israel,explaining that the blood is sacred, representing the soul,or life itself.(Leviticus 17:14) Over 1,500 years later,the Christian apostles commanded all Chrirtians to "keep abstaining......from blood."-Acts 15:29. To Jehovah's Witnesses,it is clearly impossible to abstain from blood while taking it into the body in a transfusion.They therefore insist on alternative treatments."

Is the GB/FBS being honest with the public on their stand on blood?When the private WT and Kingdom ministry, stand on blood is different from the above.Example ,Jehovah's Witnesses can take blood fractions that are made from whole blood.If God's law was never recinded,how can the GB/FDS say it is ok to take blood fractions because of modern technology?Is taking blood fractions an alternative treatment?

Bob

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Freewill - does it really exist?

by eyeslice in

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paul wrote in romans 7:19;"for what i do is not the good i want to do; no, the evil i do not want to do.

this i keep on doing.. so is there such a thing as free will, or are we all driven by our nature (our genes), .

our nurture or both?

bobld

If we were created like robots.would free will matter and we we know the difference.You see God did not create us with free will.Why I say this, because it is in his BS bible.Are people happier then animals?

Bob

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear At the 08-31-08 WT Study (FIRST LOVE)

by blondie in

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q 1, 2. how did you feel when you became convinced that what you were learning about jehovah was the .

truth?.

what convinced you of the truth?

bobld

Thanks,blondie

Maybe I am wrong but it looks like this is a wake call,because many are fading.

40 years ago they sold houses end is near,Now they can't clean houses.

25 years ago sold houses end around corner,Now can barely clean houses,

5 years ago sold house end any hour.Now couple divorced.

Delusions in la la land.

Bob

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 08-24-08 WT Study (AUTHORITY)

by blondie in

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rank and file.

12:2) far from being independent, they are "slaves of corruption," to use the words of the christian apostle peter.

is everything non-jws do from satan?.

bobld

Thanks.Blondie

Q3.It is not that we blindly do whatever we are told? You got that right,FDS/GB.I would never sell my home for you guys.I would never retire early from my job for you guys.I would never believe your wishy-washy stories ie Blood fractions,voting,what is a generation,the end time.

Q6 So what is God telling us...to believe him and the Bible.He will make our path straight not some knucklehead in N.Y.

Q9 Principle.Do you the FDS/GB really know the meaning of that word.

Q11 flee from fornication.See bookstudy.Who was it that Jehovah asked Hosea to marry.

No,No,No FDS/GB we do not follow your style of authority.

Bob

PS:I have a question.If Satan is so intelligent why did he kill Jesus?You would think he would in all his power kept him alive to defeat God's plan.

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Newbook study..."Live with Jehovah's day in mind"

by bobld in

ch:2 para 11 q.to what extent was hosea willing to go in doing god's will?what sacrifices would i be willing to make to do jehovah's will?.

in the para it says,"jehovah instructed hosea to marry gomer,"a wife of fornication".why would jehovah ask anyone to endure the indignity of spousal infidelity?jehovah was teaching a lesson in loyality and forgiveness.".

you should of heard the answers:jehovah was long-surffering,kind,good,virtue,benevolence.he consented.putup with the unfaithful wife and many more good things about this arrangement.. i bit my tongue: i said to myself what did jehovah say in: eph:5:5,gal:5:19 or re:17:2, 1 cor:5:1.you mean to say jehovah told hosea to be a cuckold.how wicked ,depraved,disgusting,repulsive,cheap,worhtless degrading,low,mean can you make a man to do your will.that is one sick dude and those making the comments.if that was not bad enough in the next para the wbts/gb say micah declared a message because the world was"extreme moral corruption and idolatry" why wouldn't it be extreme moral corrupt when jehovah approved,no demanded fornication.my take is the wbts/gb was trying to push loyality to their org.. bob.

bobld

Ch:2 para 11 Q.To what extent was Hosea willing to go in doing God's will?What sacrifices would I be willing to make to do Jehovah's will?

In the para it says,"Jehovah instructed Hosea to marry Gomer,"a wife of fornication".Why would Jehovah ask anyone to endure the indignity of spousal infidelity?Jehovah was teaching a lesson in loyality and forgiveness."

You should of heard the answers:Jehovah was long-surffering,kind,good,virtue,benevolence.He consented.putup with the unfaithful wife and many more good things about this arrangement.

I bit my tongue: I said to myself what did Jehovah say in: Eph:5:5,Gal:5:19 or Re:17:2, 1 Cor:5:1.You mean to say Jehovah told Hosea to be a cuckold.How wicked ,depraved,disgusting,repulsive,cheap,worhtless degrading,low,mean can you make a man to do your will.That is one sick dude and those making the comments.If that was not bad enough in the next para the WBTS/GB say Micah declared a message because the world was"Extreme moral corruption and idolatry" Why wouldn't it be extreme moral corrupt when Jehovah approved,no demanded fornication.My take is the WBTS/GB was trying to push loyality to their org.

Bob

WBTS and Bible

by bobld in

the wbts: jeremiah 10:23 "it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step" they use this scripture to describe how man cannot direct his own step let alone rule mankind or gov't cannot rule man.only god gov't will bring lasting peace for mankind.my question for the wbts.does the governing body of the wbts (a group of about 12 men)able the rule mankind?when god says at jeremiah10:23.does the gb rulership usher in a happy,peaceful world free from crime or war.can the gb rulership conquer sickness,old age,and death.then why do you use this scripture to fault all other gov'ts and rulers when you yourself think it's o.k.

for you to rule mankind.. the wbts:acts20:35 "there is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving"they use this scripture to describe giving as:going from door to door,counting time,placing w/a mags,and other wbts publications.also older ones have to put in at least 1/4 hour of door to door work per month to qualify for salvation.now show me a happy camper (j.w.

) doing those things.if there is so much happiness in going from door to door than the gb should be out there 24/7.they would be a whole lot happier.you see when you talk to true christians they will tell you the real meaning of that scripture.. bob.

bobld

The WBTS: Jeremiah 10:23 "It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step" They use this scripture to describe how man cannot direct his own step let alone rule mankind or Gov't cannot rule man.Only God Gov't will bring lasting peace for mankind.My question for the WBTS.Does the governing body of the WBTS (a group of about 12 men)able the rule mankind?When God says at Jeremiah10:23.Does the GB rulership usher in a happy,peaceful world free from crime or war.Can the GB rulership conquer sickness,old age,and death.Then why do you use this scripture to fault all other Gov'ts and rulers when you yourself think it's O.K. for you to rule mankind.

The WBTS:Acts20:35 "There is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving"They use this scripture to describe giving as:Going from door to door,counting time,placing W/A mags,and other wbts publications.Also older ones have to put in at least 1/4 hour of door to door work per month to qualify for salvation.Now show me a happy camper (J.W.) doing those things.If there is so much happiness in going from door to door than the GB should be out there 24/7.They would be a whole lot happier.You see when you talk to true christians they will tell you the real meaning of that scripture.

Bob

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440 Bethelites reassigned

by stillajwexelder in

although not in print yet - 440 bethelites reassigned, was the figure i heard from the platform as to how many bethelites have been reassigned to the field in one way or another in the usa

bobld

I would have to dig up my notes but at least 2200 were let go as per bethel member around 2006.I mean let go not asigned to anything but just told to leave.I thought man this Org. is hard as nails.The kicker is at the last D.C. they keep asking for young one for bethel service.Special meeting for bethel service for those between the ages of 18-35 however,those younger than 18 are welcome to attend.Yeah we want them young after we are done with you and you get old we will kick you out.There are more fish in the sea as it were.

Bob

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Awake August 2008 Hurricane Katrina

by bobld in

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more than 5,600 homes of fellow believers and 90 kingdom halls damaged.robert one of the volunteers has this to say:"jehovah takes good care of his people".also he gave up his job of over 40 years,to clean offices.you would think that after 40 years he would not have to work.. gregory: saw the light and sold his house and bought a pickup truck and trailer.nice move with the price of gas.a truck is handy for the field ministry.

(farmers make good use of pickup trucks).. wendell:"the day after katrina struck.now,however,we have seen god's care on a much larger scale.".

just your typical/ antitypical jw talk.. bob.

bobld

More than 5,600 homes of fellow believers and 90 Kingdom Halls damaged.Robert one of the volunteers has this to say:"Jehovah takes good care of his people".Also he gave up his job of over 40 years,to clean offices.You would think that after 40 years he would not have to work.

Gregory: Saw the light and sold his house and bought a pickup truck and trailer.Nice move with the price of Gas.A truck is handy for the Field Ministry.(Farmers make good use of pickup trucks).

Wendell:"The day after Katrina struck.Now,however,we have seen God's care on a much larger scale."

Just your typical/ antitypical JW talk.

Bob

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BLIND Cave Salamanders

by hamsterbait in

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salamanders whose eyes are not fully functioning use less food than those with fully functioning eyes, which burn more energy to produce retinal chemicals and electrical discharges.. it only makes sense then, that over the few thousand years since the noachian flood, that the salamanders stranded who inherited defective eyes (ie -that burned less food) would survive longer than those with good eyes that used energy anyway.. the non working eyes are an excellent example of the "vestigial organs" which the witchtower claims do not exist.. hb.

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bobld

Are you talking about the GB/FDS,shame on you

Bob

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What was your first taste of "apostasy"? Mine was Bonham, Texas

by donny in

besides the folks walking with signs at each convention, what was your first taste of "apostasy"?

my first interesting experience happened within the kingdom hall.

my congregation in dallas (farmers branch) was in the same district as the bonham congregation which was about 70 miles northeast of dallas.. http://governingbodyletters.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-owns-kingdom-halls.html.

bobld

I believe there is a book by Reed about this.

Bob