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Watchtower cleans out Kingdom Hall Library's ...

by RR in

last night i got a call from a chap in the uk, who recently left the jw's.

he wanted to compare notes with his us counterparts.. he said that a few years ago, (i think about 2 years ago) the society cleaned out all the literature from every kingdom hall, particularly russell and rutherford books and anything prior to 1950. giving each hall a computer with the watchtower cd rom for them to use for research.

he wanted to know if the same was done in the states.

bobld

Talk about re-writing history or trying to hide their nasty secrets.Remember in 1990 when they went to the V donation to simplify the d-d.It was only in the rich countries.They had already printed the Feb.March,April mags.on page 2 the prices for the mags was in print.

However,when they printed the hard bound volumes ,page 2 with the price for the mags was DELETED.Why,they thought they could pull the wool over the eyes of the public and they could.The sheep dead r&f never noticed and if you brought it to their attention they would deny it,oh well.

B

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-24-10 WT Study (BROTHERLY LOVE)

by blondie in

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review comments will be in red or headed by comments.

"--john 13:34,35.. comments.

fellow believers.. comments.

bobld

Thanks,Blondie

Must be trble in lalaland because of all the counsel for the duds.The only time they show love is when they want ....you to pioneer or spent more time in the d-d.If they invite you to a meal (1st time in 10 years) than all the reasons why you should pioneer.What is with that,where was the love.

We have invited people who are salt of the earth and not because they were J.W.it because of who they were.We have invited others who were suppose to be J.W. but refused,I guess they were better J.W. then anyone else.

Look around the K.H. and you get the feeling that some are good down to earth people and others are well (.....?????).

Bob

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"Millions now living will never die" to Millions now living 'may' never die

by EndofMysteries in

notice a few months ago, they correctly noted the title of the talk.

8/15/2009 page 16 paragraph 17, "from 1918 until 1925, the talk "millions now living will never die," which explained the hope of everlasting life on earth, was presented by jehovah'v servants in over 30 languaged worldwide.

(notice it doesn't say "jehovah's witnesses, but jehovah's servants, because they weren't called that then) by 1934, jehvoahs' witnesses......... .

bobld

Wait a minute you guys--J.W. say it is true TODAY they refer to TODAY millions(7m) J.W. living today will not die because the end is nigh.

Bob

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Feb 2010 WT

by bobld in

heaven-"man was created to live forever on earth" so it is not natural for 144k to go to heaven.. sabbath-"law covenant given to israel came to an end when jesus' death fulfilled it.so the ten commendments-including the sabbath law-that came to end?

yes".

to me that means all ten including the first one,you shall have no other god's(jehovah) before me.therefore christian have a new law and constitution under jesus christ.big jeh is out of the pix.. gilead.gb member d.s.said to missionaries "get new ones to support the preaching work financially and to obey the slave.must be short of cash.. bob.

bobld

Heaven-"Man was created to live FOREVER on earth" So it is not natural for 144K to go to heaven.

Sabbath-"Law covenant given to Israel came to an end when Jesus' death fulfilled it.So the ten commendments-including the Sabbath Law-that came to end? Yes". To me that means all ten including the FIRST one,You shall have no other God's(JEHOVAH) before me.Therefore Christian have a new Law and constitution under Jesus Christ.Big Jeh is out of the pix.

Gilead.GB member D.S.said to missionaries "Get new ones to support the preaching work financially and to obey the slave.Must be short of cash.

Bob

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NEW GENERATION DEFINED -- April 15, 2010 Watchtower

by Ultimate Reality in

from jw.org, here is the new definition of the generation from the april 15, 2010 watchtower.. .

article: holy spirits role in the outworking of jehovahs purpose.

13 third, holy spirit is at work in bringing bible.

bobld

My Q is if they keep overlapping the GB/FBS and appt younger ones and extend the end time will they NOT have more then 144k loosers and the end will not be here .

Bob

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HUGE, Faithful and discreet slave SEPARATED from other annointed now!!

by EndofMysteries in

i almost missed this in my last post, but i just realized how important and must list it.

paragraph 14 from jan 15, 2010 wt last article entitled "jehovah's way of ruling vindicated".

"a few anointed members of "the israel of god" still remain, and as jesus' brothers, they continue to act as "ambassadors substituting for christ (2 cor 5:20) they have been appointed as a faithful and discreet slave class to care for and provide spiritual food for annointed ones and a growing crowd of christians, who now include millions having the hope of living on earth forever.

bobld

What "a few annointed members still remaining" They said in 2000 the end was near because the few annointed members were getting old and the end would be here before end.Well it's 10 years so they must be really really old but the end will be here before the few die.Crazy

Bob

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WT Jan 1,2010 p1315

by bobld in

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why did god wage war against the cannites?deut 20:17. the wt says "consider five common questions"i'll comment on question q1.

"why were the canaanites displaced?instead of displaced i would use exterminated.the wt "the canaanites were,in a sense,squatters in a land that did belong to them.".

at babel-here god "confused the language of all the earth"and in gen.11:7,8-jehovah scathered them from there over all the the earth" so where were the canaanites to go.god scathered them,years later he exterminates them nice.. bob.

bobld

Why did God wage war against the Cannites?Deut 20:17

The WT says "consider five common questions"I'll comment on question Q1."Why were the Canaanites displaced?Instead of displaced I would use EXTERMINATED.The WT "The Canaanites were,in a sense,squatters in a land that did belong to them."

At Babel-Here God "Confused the language of all the earth"And in Gen.11:7,8-Jehovah scathered them from there over all the the earth" So where were the Canaanites to go.God scathered them,years later he exterminates them NICE.

Bob

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The Gradual Change From Worshiping Jehovah To The Worship Of the Governing Body

by frankiespeakin in

i first began my misadventures with jehovah's witnesses in 1972 as a youth(18 years old) and was baptised in that same year.

i was young inexperienced and they caught me at a low point when i was weak and looking for god to solve problems.

being raised as a catholic and going to all the religious indoctrination up to the point of confirmation, i guess you could say i was indoctrinated from birth to believe a certain way which left me vulnerable to the jw propaganda.. fast foreword to the time of my departure in 2001 february.. for a couple of years (late 90s) before i left i started noticing out right lies in the wt publications about their history and the luster that these magazines used to have started to fade rapidly also around that time i really began to notice the gobs and gobs of praise they were bestowing on the organization and the representative members of the so called faithful & discrete slave(gb).

bobld

All you have to do is just listen to their prayers from the platform===bow your heads to the GB.Iam sick of hearing all the praises to the GB.

Bob

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More evidence that WTS is hurting for $$$ - change to special pioneer mileage reimbursement

by sir82 in

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per a letter sent to all special pioneers in the us:.

previously the society reimbursed the special pioneers at a flat rate of x cents per mile, to cover the cost of gasoline and maintenance on their cars.

if i recall correctly, it may even have been the standard irs allowable deduction, something like 40-50 cents per mile.. beginning in 2010, the society will reimburse for mileage only, and strictly follow a mathematical formula, using:.

bobld

As I mentioned before....look at all the new scams they are coming up with.KHAA.COAA,pledges for KH construction when they already have donation boxes for a kingdom hall fund,the list goes on and on.They also have the D.C. HOTEL SCAMS.

Bob

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Odd CO talk...ever hear anything like this?

by sir82 in

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had our co visit last month.

normally the guy has all the charisma and charm of ben stein from "ferris buhler's day off", but he managed to give a talk that was actually coherent one night.. here is the rough outline:.

the theme was about the difference between "justice", "mercy", and "undeserved kindness".. situation 1: adam and eve sinned.

bobld

In Noah's day.What have the animals done to deserve justice(death).

Bob