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  Any suggestions

  by bobld in

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  what would someone type in google on the internet to direct that person to a site that was honest about the watchtower.if they just type in watchtower or jehovah's witnesses it will direct them the the wt.org which i don't want.i want them to go directly to such sites as freeminds.org.jwn or something like that.there are to many sites that would take them on a wild goose chase.i want them to go directly to the cheeze on this cult.. b.

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  Thanks for all the tips.I like jwfacts because it takes you to the meat of things and not their site.

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  Any suggestions

  by bobld in

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  what would someone type in google on the internet to direct that person to a site that was honest about the watchtower.if they just type in watchtower or jehovah's witnesses it will direct them the the wt.org which i don't want.i want them to go directly to such sites as freeminds.org.jwn or something like that.there are to many sites that would take them on a wild goose chase.i want them to go directly to the cheeze on this cult.. b.

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  What would someone type in Google on the internet to direct that person to a site that was honest about the watchtower.If they just type in watchtower or Jehovah's Witnesses it WILL direct them the the wt.org which I don't want.I want them to go directly to such sites as freeminds.org.jwn or something like that.There are to many sites that would take them on a wild goose chase.I want them to go directly to the cheeze on this cult.

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  Why I Like the "Proclaimers" Book

  by t33ap80c in

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  while it is true that the "proclaimers" book is not always as open and honest about the society's history as it claims to be, it is open and honest enough to bring into question the society claim to being god's organization.

  it's a matter of (1) knowing what to look for, (2) where to find it and then, (3) to be able get the sense of what it means.. take for example the extremely important matter of the second coming of christ.... on the top of page 47 the book truthfully explains how president charles russell came to believe that jesus returned invisibly in 1874 to begin his second coming ("invisible presence").

  and then a careful reading of the footnote on page 133 shows that the date of jesus' return was not changed to 1914 until 1943.. it is likely that even if some witnesses notice that fact, they do not get the sense of what it means.

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  Thaks. They sure like to knock the R.C. and its history but the fail when it comes to their own history.

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  CO will sit in on my "study" this week: any suggestions?

  by InterestedOne in

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  in my "study" with jw's, we're in ch 7 of the "bible teach" book.

  we did pars 17-20 last week.

  this week, the co is in town, and my conductor is having him sit in.

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  NEVER.NEVER,NEVER try to dispute their (WT) ideas or their beliefs of the bible.You will get nowhere.Total waste of time.INSTEAD.

  Ask questions such as:What happens after I get baptised and I disagree with the Faithful Slave/GB?What happens when one mate is not in the truth,Can they take their children to their church every Sunday?Can they take their children to Xmas parties or participate in sports?What about employment can I work on a Catholic church?What if my un-JW mate wants me to go to church.Can I give blood since JW say it is ok to take /steal someone elses blood fraction?

  Questions them on things that will drive them crazy.

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  Does God Create Evil?

  by rvalich in

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  the view held by christian theology is that god did not create evil.

  you may argue this point using scripture to support either side.

  however that argument is but a symptom of a much larger problem which is choice and free will.. the concept among christians is that sin, suffering, and evil deeds began with the original sin.

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  We might as well be robots because if you say anything against God or don't worship him He gets p'off and will kill you.Read Ezekiel.

  By the way what is evil (no not murder,war, etc)What about all the good people who just live a good life.But if you don't worship some shit in the sky you are shit according to him.

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  Stupid Illustration

  by EmptyInside in

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  a witness related an illustration they heard at an assembly.

  and sadly,they thought it was so profound.

  it was brought out how some young people feel the restrictions of the "truth" cage them in.

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  Crowbar jail is ok for criminals I suppose some jw need to be put in crowbar jail or cages.You know which ones.

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  Assembly Day Points by a Member of the Governing Body

  by Reopened Mind in

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  a jw friend of mine sent me this email today:.

  assembly day points...... .

  brother morris, (member of the governing body).

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  bobld

  What a two faced liar.Why did you give the boot to thousands of bethelites before 2008.You were greedy and wanted to sell off you properties in NEW YORK because the market was hot and you could make a BIG FAT PROFIT at the expence of those poor betheliltes that sold their houses and give all their money to you.You have the gall the tell people you warned them of this economic disaster you are full of shit.Don't come around with this dung about family worship night,what you are saying really it's family worship the GB/FDS.Boy talk of worshipping idols GOD really hates that and you should know better.

  Why did you take the properties in NY off the market when the market went south.GREED GREED,

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  Assembly Day Points by a Member of the Governing Body

  by Reopened Mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a jw friend of mine sent me this email today:.

  assembly day points...... .

  brother morris, (member of the governing body).

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  You said the same think in the 80's & 90's where your people sold their houses that were morgate free and went pioneering because the end was so so sooooooooooooooo close.So now they are old and crappled and have to work hard with no savings.OH YEAH YOUR BULLSHIT IS NOT FROM GOD BUT YOUR SELFISH GREED JUST LIKE MADOFF.

  Ex of ladies house burnt down well the stupid sister didn't have insurance why because the end was so close that she didn't need it she listened to your dumb counsel.

  Hugh project is wailkill where are you getting the money.Oh from all your schemes and scams of getting wills,real estate,jeweller,etc.

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  I'm going to end my "bible" study

  by KristiKay in

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  i posted a while back, i've been studying with a nice jehovas witness lady for probably about 6 months.

  after a few weeks i googled a few things (earthquakes, how long we've been on earth, ect.

  ) i realised she was very misinformed.

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  bobld

  Satan was/is sincere.yet he is evil.

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  Understanding Christ's Sacrifice

  by tec in

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  i haven't always understood how christ could have carried our sins for us, and had them forgiven.

  i've sort of understood because that's what people say he did, but the ransom (in a legalistic adam/jesus way) never held weight for me.

  but something recently happened that allowed me to understand.

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  bobld

  Maybe the Jews were right see He9:26

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