I am in a debate with Korean JW's over the divinity of Jesus. I showed them tons of scripture that imply that Jesus is divine. They reluctantly accepted those and argue that Jesus may be a "mighty" God, not "almighty" God and that Jehovah alone is almighty. What is the best way to rebutt their argument?
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What is the best way to rebutt JW's argument that Jesus is not "almighty"?
by ukescott ini am in a debate with korean jw's over the divinity of jesus.
i showed them tons of scripture that imply that jesus is divine.
they reluctantly accepted those and argue that jesus may be a "mighty" god, not "almighty" god and that jehovah alone is almighty.
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Was The paradise for the Great Crowd a doctrine initiated by Rutherford?
by ukescott ini am currently reading '20 questions jehovah's witnesses cannot answer' by charles love, former jw and elder.
this guy argues that the paradise for the great crowd on earth that jw's believe is actually judge rutherford's invention in 1935 to solve the delimmea that only 144,400 were supposed to go to heaven and there were more jw's living.
can anybody confirm that his argument is true?.
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ukescott
Thanks Leolaia for the clarification.
One more favor: Could you elaborate "protected remnant doctrine from prophetic failure"? Please pardon me for my ignorance of JW's historical background.
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Was The paradise for the Great Crowd a doctrine initiated by Rutherford?
by ukescott ini am currently reading '20 questions jehovah's witnesses cannot answer' by charles love, former jw and elder.
this guy argues that the paradise for the great crowd on earth that jw's believe is actually judge rutherford's invention in 1935 to solve the delimmea that only 144,400 were supposed to go to heaven and there were more jw's living.
can anybody confirm that his argument is true?.
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ukescott
I am currently reading '20 Questions Jehovah's Witnesses Cannot Answer' by Charles Love, former JW and elder. This guy argues that The paradise for the Great Crowd on earth that JW's believe is actually Judge Rutherford's invention in 1935 to solve the delimmea that only 144,400 were supposed to go to Heaven and there were more JW's living. Can anybody confirm that his argument is true?
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who is paid cleargy in WTS?
by ukescott inmormons claim that they don't have paid cleargy.
it is true if they are taking about local churches.. but they have so many paid leaders in their organization: the general authorities made up of the first presidency, the twelve apostles, and the seventies, and seminary institute teachers, branch office administrators and staffs in each country, and etc.. what about the wts?
who are the "paid cleargy"?
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Mormons claim that they don't have paid cleargy. It is true if they are taking about local churches.
But they have so many paid leaders in their organization: The General Authorities made up of the first presidency, the twelve apostles, and the Seventies, and seminary institute teachers, branch office administrators and staffs in each country, and etc.
What about the WTS? Who are the "paid cleargy"? How well are lay JW's informed of this?
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Mormons=JWs Read these quotes from Mormons to see the same mind control
by jwfacts ini have been researching similar religions (christadelphians, church of god, sdas.
mormons, bible students) and just posted a new section at http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/similar.htm.
below are comments from mormons and x mormons that i found on the internet.
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ukescott
Isn't it interesting? If you want to find on your own more about the parallel btween JW and Mormons, visit the following websites.
This website is like www.jehovahs-witness.com. It has very acting dissussion board which has more than 100,000 daily hits as well as so many valuable links and archives.
If you want to know the recovering process many exmos go through:
http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon088.htm
If you want to get a snap shot of what Mormon Church teaches:
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What was your final straw that broke your back in terms of doctrine?
by ukescott inas ex-mormon, my exposure to a different version of the first vision story which was quite different from the offical first vision was my beginning way out of mormonism.
what about you ex-jw's?
what, in terms of wt doctrine, made you realize that the wt is a fraud?.
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As ex-mormon, my exposure to a different version of the First Vision story which was quite different from the offical First Vision was my beginning way out of Mormonism. What about you ex-JW's? What, in terms of WT doctrine, made you realize that the WT is a fraud?
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Where does WT get their money for its operation?
by ukescott inas ex-mo, i know the mormon church makes millions of dollars each year by having its faithful members pay tithings and running quite a few businesses.
i am pretty sure wt as a corporate makes millions of dollars each year.
otherwise it wouldn't build thousands of kh's across the world i guess.
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As ex-Mo, I know the Mormon Church makes millions of dollars each year by having its faithful members pay tithings and running quite a few businesses.
I am pretty sure WT as a corporate makes millions of dollars each year. Otherwise it wouldn't build thousands of KH's across the world I guess. JW's often brag about them not paying tithing like other churches. How does WT make money?
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Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise?&!%
by ukescott inhi, i am ex-mo (ex-mormon) pretty new to this forum.
i need your help.. yesterday i engaged in a debate with a couple of korean jw's over "spirit" and "soul".. they argued that spirit is "lifeforce" like electricity that runs a computer and so when we die, we no longer exist in any shape and form.. so i asked them how they would interpret what jesus said to one of the bad guys on the cross "verily i say unto thee to day shalt thou be with me in paradise" (kjv).
this implies that a spirit continues to exist after death.. then they argued that the phrase has to be read in the following way.. "verily i say unto thee today, shall thou be with me in pradise" (nwt).
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Thank you all for the information. It will be denifitely of great help.
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Verily I say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise?&!%
by ukescott inhi, i am ex-mo (ex-mormon) pretty new to this forum.
i need your help.. yesterday i engaged in a debate with a couple of korean jw's over "spirit" and "soul".. they argued that spirit is "lifeforce" like electricity that runs a computer and so when we die, we no longer exist in any shape and form.. so i asked them how they would interpret what jesus said to one of the bad guys on the cross "verily i say unto thee to day shalt thou be with me in paradise" (kjv).
this implies that a spirit continues to exist after death.. then they argued that the phrase has to be read in the following way.. "verily i say unto thee today, shall thou be with me in pradise" (nwt).
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ukescott
Hi, I am ex-Mo (ex-Mormon) pretty new to this forum. I need your help.
Yesterday I engaged in a debate with a couple of Korean JW's over "spirit" and "soul".
They argued that spirit is "lifeforce" like electricity that runs a computer and so when we die, we no longer exist in any shape and form.
So I asked them how they would interpret what Jesus said to one of the bad guys on the cross "Verily I say unto thee To day shalt thou be with me in paradise" (KJV)
This implies that a spirit continues to exist after death.
Then they argued that the phrase has to be read in the following way.
"Verily I say unto thee today, shall thou be with me in pradise" (NWT)
How would you react to this abusurd argument?
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What's WT's official statement on the creation of earth?
by ukescott ini am an ex-mormon who is fairly new to this forum.
i am currently debating with a korean jw on how old the earth is.
i'd appreciate it if anyone of you could tell me what wt's official statment on this issue is.. .
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I am an ex-Mormon who is fairly new to this forum. I am currently debating with a Korean JW on how old the earth is. I'd appreciate it if anyone of you could tell me what WT's official statment on this issue is.