Posts by ukescott

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Can anyone give me references to the following flip-flop doctrine?

by ukescott in

who is the 'lord' as mentioned in romans 10:12-16.

1903 - 'lord' refers to jesus.1940 - 'lord' refers to jehovah.1978 - 'lord' refers to jesus.1980 - 'lord' refers to jehovah.

ukescott

Who is The 'Lord' as mentioned in Romans 10:12-16

1903 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
1940 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.
1978 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
1980 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.

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Your answer to a JW's question "What is an alternative?"

by ukescott in

a jw that i engaged in a series of debate finally posed this question.

i can see that he is running out of his "canned" answers and he wants to defend his organization desperately or he doesn't want to admit that he is dead wrong.

so he uses this faulty logic to depend his belief system.

ukescott, I'd ask you, where do you want the Jehovah's Witness to go if she quit being a Jehovah's Witness? You must have a motive in debating with a Jehovah's Witness. Why are you debating the Witness?

Would you allow someone to debate you on your beliefs on the same level as you are debating the Jehovah's Witness?

That's a good question. I believe that there are definitely many other better alternatives. But since I have never been in WT myself, I'd like to hear more about your insights.

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Your answer to a JW's question "What is an alternative?"

by ukescott in

a jw that i engaged in a series of debate finally posed this question.

i can see that he is running out of his "canned" answers and he wants to defend his organization desperately or he doesn't want to admit that he is dead wrong.

so he uses this faulty logic to depend his belief system.

ukescott

A JW that I engaged in a series of debate finally posed this question. I can see that he is running out of his "canned" answers and he wants to defend his organization desperately or he doesn't want to admit that he is dead wrong. So he uses this faulty logic to depend his belief system. Anyway how would you answer to this question as ex-JW?

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What is the best way to rebutt JW's argument that Jesus is not "almighty"?

by ukescott in

i am in a debate with korean jw's over the divinity of jesus.

i showed them tons of scripture that imply that jesus is divine.

they reluctantly accepted those and argue that jesus may be a "mighty" god, not "almighty" god and that jehovah alone is almighty.

ukescott

I am in a debate with Korean JW's over the divinity of Jesus. I showed them tons of scripture that imply that Jesus is divine. They reluctantly accepted those and argue that Jesus may be a "mighty" God, not "almighty" God and that Jehovah alone is almighty. What is the best way to rebutt their argument?

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Was The paradise for the Great Crowd a doctrine initiated by Rutherford?

by ukescott in

i am currently reading '20 questions jehovah's witnesses cannot answer' by charles love, former jw and elder.

this guy argues that the paradise for the great crowd on earth that jw's believe is actually judge rutherford's invention in 1935 to solve the delimmea that only 144,400 were supposed to go to heaven and there were more jw's living.

can anybody confirm that his argument is true?.

ukescott

Thanks Leolaia for the clarification.

One more favor: Could you elaborate "protected remnant doctrine from prophetic failure"? Please pardon me for my ignorance of JW's historical background.

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Was The paradise for the Great Crowd a doctrine initiated by Rutherford?

by ukescott in

i am currently reading '20 questions jehovah's witnesses cannot answer' by charles love, former jw and elder.

this guy argues that the paradise for the great crowd on earth that jw's believe is actually judge rutherford's invention in 1935 to solve the delimmea that only 144,400 were supposed to go to heaven and there were more jw's living.

can anybody confirm that his argument is true?.

ukescott

I am currently reading '20 Questions Jehovah's Witnesses Cannot Answer' by Charles Love, former JW and elder. This guy argues that The paradise for the Great Crowd on earth that JW's believe is actually Judge Rutherford's invention in 1935 to solve the delimmea that only 144,400 were supposed to go to Heaven and there were more JW's living. Can anybody confirm that his argument is true?

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who is paid cleargy in WTS?

by ukescott in

mormons claim that they don't have paid cleargy.

it is true if they are taking about local churches.. but they have so many paid leaders in their organization: the general authorities made up of the first presidency, the twelve apostles, and the seventies, and seminary institute teachers, branch office administrators and staffs in each country, and etc.. what about the wts?

who are the "paid cleargy"?

ukescott

Mormons claim that they don't have paid cleargy. It is true if they are taking about local churches.

But they have so many paid leaders in their organization: The General Authorities made up of the first presidency, the twelve apostles, and the Seventies, and seminary institute teachers, branch office administrators and staffs in each country, and etc.

What about the WTS? Who are the "paid cleargy"? How well are lay JW's informed of this?

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Mormons=JWs Read these quotes from Mormons to see the same mind control

by jwfacts in

i have been researching similar religions (christadelphians, church of god, sdas.

mormons, bible students) and just posted a new section at http://www.jwfacts.com/index_files/similar.htm.

below are comments from mormons and x mormons that i found on the internet.

ukescott

Isn't it interesting? If you want to find on your own more about the parallel btween JW and Mormons, visit the following websites.

http://www.exmormon.org

This website is like www.jehovahs-witness.com. It has very acting dissussion board which has more than 100,000 daily hits as well as so many valuable links and archives.

If you want to know the recovering process many exmos go through:

http://www.exmormon.org/mormon/mormon088.htm

If you want to get a snap shot of what Mormon Church teaches:

http://www.exmormon.org/tract2.htm

http://www.i4m.com/think/

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What was your final straw that broke your back in terms of doctrine?

by ukescott in

as ex-mormon, my exposure to a different version of the first vision story which was quite different from the offical first vision was my beginning way out of mormonism.

what about you ex-jw's?

what, in terms of wt doctrine, made you realize that the wt is a fraud?.

ukescott

As ex-mormon, my exposure to a different version of the First Vision story which was quite different from the offical First Vision was my beginning way out of Mormonism. What about you ex-JW's? What, in terms of WT doctrine, made you realize that the WT is a fraud?

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Where does WT get their money for its operation?

by ukescott in

as ex-mo, i know the mormon church makes millions of dollars each year by having its faithful members pay tithings and running quite a few businesses.

i am pretty sure wt as a corporate makes millions of dollars each year.

otherwise it wouldn't build thousands of kh's across the world i guess.

ukescott

As ex-Mo, I know the Mormon Church makes millions of dollars each year by having its faithful members pay tithings and running quite a few businesses.

I am pretty sure WT as a corporate makes millions of dollars each year. Otherwise it wouldn't build thousands of KH's across the world I guess. JW's often brag about them not paying tithing like other churches. How does WT make money?