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Did you hear the one about the Senator suing God?

by Cindi_67 in

his whole point in the lawsuit is to prove that anybody can sue anybody for anything, and he is just fed up with it.

but it is very interesting to see that he sues god and his reasons for it.. read the following story:.

msnbc.com state senator sues god injunction sought against him for allegedly causing deaths, making threatsthe associated pressupdated: 9:51 p.m. et sept 17, 2007lincoln, neb.

Cindi_67

His whole point in the lawsuit is to prove that anybody can sue anybody for anything, and he is just fed up with it. But it is very interesting to see that he sues God and his reasons for it.

Read the following story:

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MSNBC.com

State senator sues God Injunction sought against Him for allegedly causing deaths, making threats The Associated Press Updated: 9:51 p.m. ET Sept 17, 2007

LINCOLN, Neb. - The defendant in a state senator’s lawsuit is accused of causing untold death and horror and threatening to cause more still. He can be sued in Douglas County, the legislator claims, because He’s everywhere.

State Sen. Ernie Chambers sued God last week. Angered by another lawsuit he considers frivolous, Chambers says he’s trying to make the point that anybody can file a lawsuit against anybody.

Chambers says in his lawsuit that God has made terrorist threats against the senator and his constituents, inspired fear and caused “widespread death, destruction and terrorization of millions upon millions of the Earth’s inhabitants.”

The Omaha senator, who skips morning prayers during the legislative session and often criticizes Christians, also says God has caused “fearsome floods ... horrendous hurricanes, terrifying tornadoes.”

He’s seeking a permanent injunction against the Almighty.

Suit in protest
Chambers said the lawsuit was triggered by a federal suit filed against a judge who recently barred words such as “rape” and “victim” from a sexual assault trial.

The accuser in the criminal case, Tory Bowen, sued Lancaster District Judge Jeffre Cheuvront, claiming that he violated her free speech rights.

Chambers said Bowen’s lawsuit is inappropriate because the Nebraska Supreme Court has already considered the case and federal courts follow the decisions of state supreme courts on state matters.

“This lawsuit having been filed and being of such questionable merit creates a circumstance where my lawsuit is appropriately filed,” Chambers said. “People might call it frivolous but if they read it they’ll see there are very serious issues I have raised.”

U.S. District Judge Richard Kopf, in an order last week, expressed doubts about whether Bowen’s lawsuit “has any legal basis whatsoever” and said sanctions may be imposed against Bowen and her attorneys if they fail to show cause for the lawsuit.

The Associated Press usually does not identify accusers in sex-assault cases, but Bowen has allowed her name to be used publicly because of the issue over the judge’s language restrictions.

Cheuvront declared a mistrial in the sexual assault trial in July, saying pretrial publicity made it impossible to gather enough impartial jurors.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20827350/

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What's running through the grapevine

by forsharry in

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so i was talking with an girlfriend that i had (actually the only friend i had in 'the truth').

we have recently reconnected, and she's still on the fence as to whether or not to go back into the org.

however, her aunt, an elder's wife and all-around snot rocket, let her know what was going on in the truth (i'm guessing to get her to come back full-time cause 'look at all that's happening, and it's the end!

Cindi_67

YEAH.

1975 - 6,000 years of human existence. THE END? POSSIBLY

1986 - Declared the year of Peace & Security. I thought that was it. And with all the mumbo-jumbo about not wasting our time going to College. It seemed like that was definitely it.

1990 - Gulf War. Declarations from Bush father of a New World Order. Prophecy being fulfilled? COULD THIS BE THE BEGGINING OF THE END?

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 - TERRORIST ATTACK TO THE UNITED STATES. This must definitely be it. It made everyone forget that 1914 and WWI had changed the world. SOME THOUGHT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE "GREAT TRIBULATION".

Now what? I wonder what else could be brewing or what exactly it is that will mark "the end". So much has happened that will give us a clue as to the times we are living and the worst things have happened. What else needs to happen? And what and how is the Org. going to explain why the end hasn't come yet?

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THE QUALITY OF ELDERS GOING DOWN?

by badboy in

jw
friends

any takers?

Cindi_67

IS THIS A JOKE?

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Has anybody been at those 1/2 hour public talk meetings?

by Cindi_67 in

jw
friends

i wonder if anybody out there has been to the sunday meeting with the 1/2 hour talk followed by the watchtower study?

how does it work?

is the entire meeting still 2 hours but there is a 1/2 hour break in between parts?

Cindi_67

OOOOHHHHHH.

Thanks anyway.

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Has anybody been at those 1/2 hour public talk meetings?

by Cindi_67 in

jw
friends

i wonder if anybody out there has been to the sunday meeting with the 1/2 hour talk followed by the watchtower study?

how does it work?

is the entire meeting still 2 hours but there is a 1/2 hour break in between parts?

Cindi_67

I wonder if anybody out there has been to the Sunday meeting with the 1/2 hour talk followed by the Watchtower study? How does it work? Is the entire meeting still 2 hours but there is a 1/2 hour break in between parts? Or is the meeting now 1 1/2 hour long, without interruption?

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Jw's and prostitutes refuse anti malaria spray in rwanda

by candidlynuts in

any one know of any biblical reason why they'd refuse the spray?.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200709120313.html.

rwanda: religion, prostitutes reject malaria spray.

Cindi_67

they were mentioned again in todays news..
http://allafrica.com/stories/200709130391.html
This sad problem some of us have was highlighted recently when peoples belonging to a certain religious affiliation refused anti-malarial spraying in their homes because it went against their religion.
This is a country close to God and tolerant of many ways of life. There cannot be tolerance, though, for illogical claims. No matter which direction you pray towards, daily health and safety must be a top priority.
Yet this is not what we see today. Besides the refusal by the Jehovah's Witnesses , there is another religious group, commonly called Abadaaki, which does not believe in any type of medication, be it modern or traditional.

Here they are mentioned as Jehovah's Witnesses and not of God. I also Googled it, and nothing came up under Jehovah's Witnesses of god. This is clearly "us" JW's. I cannot understand why they are refusing this. This is crazy.

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Religions similar to JWs.

by LtCmd.Lore in

does anyone know of any religions that are very similar to jehovahs witnesses?.

it tends to come up in discussions with them a lot, they like to think that they are the only ones that don't believe in hell, the trinity, that jesus died on a stake, that they won't go to heaven, or stuff like that.

i could probaby just prove them wrong, but that would take forever and it would be a lot easier to just say: "you're not as unique as you think...".

Cindi_67

Hi!
A church that springs off from th JW but has developed a much more sophisticated understanding based on the Bible are the "Lords' Witnesses". They also try to discern a grammatical biblecode which seems to make some sense.
A table comparing their doctrines to other major churches (plus JW *gg*) can be found here: http://www.truebiblecode.com/churches.html
Regards,
Philippus

Yes, but he also tries to prophecy when the "end" will come. He says is next year on March 23. A failed prophecy, like many others he's given is, that in August there was going to be an attack against the UN. According to him on his own words:The UN will be hit by a terrorist attack on August 16/17, 2007. But it will certainly recover and then be controlled very much by the Russian bear at first. Then later it will reform the UNPBC to be run by 10 nations, 5 of which will be the present UNSC permanent members. These are the 10 toes on the image of Daniel 2 and the 10 horns on the image of the Beast of Revelation 13 in the symbolism for today.

He is doing the same or worst than the WTBS by actually giving dates. Of course we are passed August and nothing happened. However he acknowledges that some of his

prophecies have failed. He has too much information to read in one day, more less comprehend. It is more complicated than JW's beliefs. A lot of things he took with him

after he left the Witnesses, others are even weirder.

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A muslim guide to countering Jehovah's Witnesses

by Cindi_67 in

i found this website interesting.

they have scans of very old magazines and books, countering jw's beliefs and exposing failures.. thought you all might want to read this.. http://www.jamaat.net/comp/jw/jw.html.

Cindi_67

I found this website interesting. They have scans of very old magazines and books, countering JW's beliefs and exposing failures.

Thought you all might want to read this.

http://www.jamaat.net/comp/jw/jw.html

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Jw's and prostitutes refuse anti malaria spray in rwanda

by candidlynuts in

any one know of any biblical reason why they'd refuse the spray?.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200709120313.html.

rwanda: religion, prostitutes reject malaria spray.

Cindi_67

There is a lot of controversy around DDT, the pesticide used to kill Malaria.

DDT use against malaria

Malaria afflicts between 300 million and 500 million people every year. The World Health Organization estimates that around 1 million people die of malaria and malaria-related illness every year, [51] with about 90% of these deaths occur in Africa, mostly to children under the age of 5.

Most prior use of DDT was in agriculture, but the controlled use of DDT continues to this day for the purposes of public health. Current use for disease control requires only a small fraction of the amounts previously used in agriculture, and at these levels the pesticide is much less likely to cause environmental problems. Residual house spraying involves the treatment of all interior walls and ceilings with insecticide, and is particularly effective against mosquitoes, which favour indoor resting before or after feeding. Advocated as the mainstay of malaria eradication programmes in the late 1950s and 1960s, DDT remains a major component of control programmes in southern African states, though many countries have abandoned or curtailed their spraying activities. South Africa, Swaziland, Mozambique and Ecuador are examples of countries that have very successfully reduced malaria infestations with DDT.

Indeed, the problems facing health officials in their fight against malaria neither begin nor end with DDT. Experts tie the spread of malaria to numerous factors, including the resistance of the malaria microbe itself to the drugs traditionally used to treat the illness [52] and a chronic lack of funds in the countries worst hit by malaria.

The growth of resistance to DDT and the fear that DDT may be harmful both to humans and the environment led the U.N., donor countries, and various national governments to restrict or curtail the use of DDT in vector control. At the same time, use of DDT as an agricultural insecticide was often unrestricted, and restrictions were often evaded, especially in developing countries where malaria is rife, so that resistance continued to grow. [9]

A commentary on the current state of global malaria control was published in the May 2007 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. The authors identify "3 critical factors that are currently absent or in too short supply" for making progress in the fight against malaria: "leadership, management, and money," while making no mention of restrictions limiting the use of DDT. They also single out resistance of the malaria parasite to chloroquine as the cause of increasing malaria mortality in sub-Saharan Africa, not restrictions on DDT. [53]

Today there is debate among professionals working on malaria control concerning the appropriate role of DDT. The range of disagreement is relatively narrow: Few believe either that large scale spraying should be resumed or that the use of DDT should be abandoned altogether. The debate focuses on the relative merits of DDT and alternative pesticides as well as complementary use of interior wall spraying, insecticide-treated bed-nets, and other mosquito control techniques.

Since the appointment of Arata Kochi as head of its anti-malaria division, the WHO has shifted its position in this controversy, from primary reliance on bed-nets to a policy more favorable to DDT. Until an announcement made on 16 September 2006, the policy had recommended indoor spraying of insecticides in areas of seasonal or episodic transmission of malaria, but a new policy also advocates it where continuous, intense transmission of the disease causes the most deaths. [54] In 2007, the WHO clarified its position, saying it is "very much concerned with health consequences from use of DDT" and reaffirmed its commitment to phasing out the use of DDT. [55]

TAKEN FROM WIKIPEDIA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT#Recent_changes

I just don't see the relevance in being "against God's guidelines" and the fact that the use of the pesiticide comes with a lot of other problems, like cancer, low sperm count, deformed babies, etc. By the way the use of this pesticide is banned in the US. Long exposure can cause an array of problems.

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Millions of years vs. Thousands according to the Society

by Cindi_67 in

another topic gave me the idea to post this one.

i have always asked myself, why does the society not agree with the amount of time archeologists say dinosaurs and other species roamed the earth?

they agree the earth has existed for maybe billions of years.

Cindi_67

Another topic gave me the idea to post this one. I have always asked myself, why does the Society not agree with the amount of time archeologists say dinosaurs and other species roamed the earth? They agree the earth has existed for maybe billions of years. But why do they give life on earth only thousands of years, since the creation of animals, vegetation? Anybody out there an archeologist or a researcher of these things that can share some information on this?

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