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Here’s a (very) long blog I wrote about our name some time ago. Wish I had an editor for some of these 😂
AllTimeJeff
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What's The Point?
by AllTimeJeff init's been 12 years since i submitted my resignation letter, and stopped playing by their rules.. in a spurt of manic rationality, i blew up the bridge, sky high.
knowing that the diseased organ would need to be forever removed, away from anything remotely functional in my mind, body, and soul.
lest i be tempted to return.... so, i left.
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Why do Jehovah`s Witnesses Shun fellow believers When God and Jesus never shunned even Satan ?
by smiddy3 inscholars generally agree that it was written between the 7th and 4th centuries bce, with the 6th century bce as the most likely period for various reasons.
the book of job .. so according to jw`s about 6,000 years ago satan rebelled against jehovah god ,did jehovah disown him there and then shunning him ?.
apparently not as we can read from the book of job centuries later that satan could still come and go freely before the throne of jehovah in heaven .job 1: 6. and apparently he could still do this for centuries later ,that is coming to and fro before jehovah because according to the jw religion he wasn`t cast out of heaven for another 2,000 years until the 20th century .. now in the case of jesus much of what is said about jehovah and satan also applies to jesus before he came to earth.. but even when he was on earth he didn`t shun satan either in fact he allowed satan to lead him around according to the bible account.luke 4:13 so the devil having concluded all the temptations retired from him until another convenient time .so it wasn`t jesus calling the shots here it was satan .. mark 1: 13 he ,jesus, also shared 40 days in the wilderness with satan letting him tempt him .. so their was no way either jehovah or jesus ever shunned satan the devil according to the bible writings.. and when jesus ascended to heaven after his sacrifice he along with his father jehovah still had association with satan the devil until he was cast out of heaven 2,000 years later ,according to the jw`s..
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AllTimeJeff
Hi there.
All JW rules that don’t have scriptural support are in existence for one reason and one reason only: To prop up the power of the GB as the F&DS. That’s it.
Because this is a fruity little cult, if they allowed fraternization with members who leave, they’d lose more followers. (Maybe?) Regardless it’s all about their power. It’s not about the Bible.
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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?
by AlainAlam indo you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?
as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..
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AllTimeJeff
Hi there. This piqued my interest so I thought I’d deposit an opinion you can flush. ;)
Does it matter if they’re cynical or delusional? Not to me. In my years out, I’ve bumped into the problem of belief. I’ve learned we can trick ourselves into believing anything that makes us feel good and purposeful. It doesn’t matter to us if our beliefs may or may not hurt others
If you read CoC I think you’ll see that some are cynical. Even Knorr wasn’t sure if 1914.
I was at Gilead a long time ago and met the then existing GB. I can only provide my anecdotal opinion that most of the GB believes their own bullshit about being “chosen leaders”, and it is highly likely that they know a lot of their prophecies are false. As a result, they are in CYA mode. They also are likely consumed with paying off the sexual abuse survivors which threatens their very financial existence.
I don’t give over-zealous idiot leaders who are suffering through a decades long case of delusions of grandeur any breaks or credit for sincerity.
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What's The Point?
by AllTimeJeff init's been 12 years since i submitted my resignation letter, and stopped playing by their rules.. in a spurt of manic rationality, i blew up the bridge, sky high.
knowing that the diseased organ would need to be forever removed, away from anything remotely functional in my mind, body, and soul.
lest i be tempted to return.... so, i left.
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AllTimeJeff
Hi there. I check in every now and again. Was surprised to see an old post bumped up. But yes I’m doing fine everyone. :)
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AllTimeJeff
:)
If it is your desire to try, you'll get a lot further then I would.
I am with anything that helps JW's to think on their own.
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Can we ever get our loved ones out?
by SnakesInTheTower ina post on another thread got me to thinking and writing.. should we even be trying to get our loved ones out of jehovah's witnesses?.
when a person truly believes in their belief system, or even if they don't but have held to that system for a long time, there is nothing we can say that will move them from that system.. why?
perhaps pride.
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AllTimeJeff
Hey there Snakes... Long time...
My only thought today is, it has to be about them as much as it is about us. Life isn't fair.
My dad still has a foot in. I imagine it gives him something social to do. Beyond that, if I proved that he is wrong, he is all alone, without the Borg, who does he have?
I would say me, but, that isn't happening. He keeps a fairly robust distance.
Our parents and loved ones still in have dependency issues, and the reward for leaving (value) must exceed the cost for them.
It's ok to leave behind people we have loved, if that is the choice you make. It's ok to be happy without believing JW relatives.
It's ok to forge ahead, and decide to be happy with the new life we choose to have.
Snakes, for you, because I have followed you from the beginning, I want you to get what you want, and I hope you get it. :)
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AllTimeJeff
Nope. You can't reason with someone who doesn't want to...
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Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?
by minimus ini sneakily read his books at work.
it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.
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AllTimeJeff
Final nail in the coffin. ;)
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AllTimeJeff
If you read my 1914 joke in the voice of, say, Dennis Miller, it's much funnier... :) -
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What's The Point?
by AllTimeJeff init's been 12 years since i submitted my resignation letter, and stopped playing by their rules.. in a spurt of manic rationality, i blew up the bridge, sky high.
knowing that the diseased organ would need to be forever removed, away from anything remotely functional in my mind, body, and soul.
lest i be tempted to return.... so, i left.
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AllTimeJeff
Menrov, that is exactly why I had to move on from the first marriage. The JW infection was too deep and ingrained. I would have had to commit a good chunk of my life to trying to wake her up, and I needed every last spare gallon of gas I had to spare to spend on my recovery.
Blondie, fading is it's own thing. I didn't get it when I first left, but I do now. JW's sniff out inactivity very well, since their noses are so high in the air, but it never helps the feeling it puts in you.
Phizzy, I am happy for you. I hope everyone is able to experience healing on some level, as soon as possible. We all deserve to be happy, and to know ourselves. (and to know that our first name isn't "brother" or "sister" lol)