i seek concrete evidence.explain it in a few words or post links that can contradict jw material.if 607 is a lie then 1914 is lie..
607 is true if you assume the bible is true and inspired
607 is true if it is found in history books. Remember, there are no dates in the bible at all, so we rely on secular history for those. I assume that secular history is true, and that the bible (which isn't an invention of Jehovah's Witnesses Inc) if it were correct, would not contradict scholarly history.
607 is true only if you blindly follow the Governing Body without verifying anything outside of a Watchtower.
i seek concrete evidence.explain it in a few words or post links that can contradict jw material.if 607 is a lie then 1914 is lie..
I find the easiest method the best.
Find one history book in any school or college that remotely suggests the date of Jerusalems destruction is 607 BCE. One.
Why not? Because it didn't happen then.
Start there. All JW's want to do is to create doubt in your mind, while selling other products of theirs. Their point isn't to prove anything except "Lets count backwards from 1914."
Again, if it isn't taught in schools, or anywhere, except by JW's, who rely on that date, and then discourage anyone from doing independent investigation, that there answer is, "Trust us", well, trust at your own risk. Or to quote Reagan, "Trust but verify."
Verify!
it's tied, 1 to 1. i'm with the green team over lala boys.
my prediction it'll be celtics in best out of 7..
See, thats what I love about Boston fans Darth. Total honesty. You own your dickishness....
I am sure we would get along in person, but alas, I can't stand any sports team from Boston since the Red Sox came back to beat the Yankees and the Curse of the Bambino. Since then, I hope a sinkhole swallows Fenway and Steinbrenners ego. I have no idea which is bigger.
it's tied, 1 to 1. i'm with the green team over lala boys.
my prediction it'll be celtics in best out of 7..
Oh good, a Boston sports fan. So calm, docile, reasonable.... (stop me when you have heard enough lies...)
the manipulation of information - jehovah's witnesses official web site.
"by clever and persevering use of propaganda even heaven can be represented as hell to the people, and conversely the most wretched life as paradise.
" adolf hitler, mein kampf.
yknot, It's my opinion you're an apostate who claims you go to the meetings with a deliberate intent to deceive. I plan on attending the meeting this Thursday. If I do I seriously doubt I'll be back here.
Not that y'all need me to tell you anything (and not like thats ever stopped me) but.....
Ynot is the only person who has asked "us" apostates to give AIW a chance.
AIW responds by calling her of all people an apostate. This makes me what, a jedi?
If anyone wonders why this two bit excuse of a troll is being identified as such by "us" apostates, when he/she/it starts threads with inflammatory words like "nazi propganda", quotes Ayn Rand, steadfastly defends JW's by cutting and pasting unrelated junk, then takes a dump on those who defend he/she it (like yknot) who would actually like to believe there is a heart and a soul behind the juvenile delinquent who is laughing their ass off, posting in their pajamas and waiting for momma and dadda to come home to tuck them in (right before the Clearasil is applied, hopefully to the face...)
AIW, I only speak for myself, but I seriously hope you won't be back here either. Hope you're enjoying 11th grade. (again.)
Just saw this. Was putting down some Ale's watching the USA (USA! USA! USA!) tie good ol England. We don't care how we do it, but next time, England should really consider having a goalie on their team for the next match.
the manipulation of information - jehovah's witnesses official web site.
"by clever and persevering use of propaganda even heaven can be represented as hell to the people, and conversely the most wretched life as paradise.
" adolf hitler, mein kampf.
AIW, why are you ignoring Ynot? Thats your best friend here, and yet, you ignore her. What the hell?
But you go after Mary, and others who are more to your target audience of arguing for no apparant reason. Here's your M.O. Stirring the pot, making ridiculous claims, getting called on them, then claiming persecution after you are called on them.
Good luck in your next life as a Chicago Cubs fan.
this is an internet board.
as such, what makes it relevant, cool, or otherwise, are the people who choose to make themselves a part of this particular community.. internet forums of any stripe have regulars, visitors, curious, lurkers, and of course, trolls.
jw internet communities are no different.. many regulars who are here used to be jw's, and left for one reason or another.
Witness My Fury
Believe me, I understand. I am for understanding, but I at least need to see some ability to be honest on one thing. Be it the pedophile scandal, 1914, anything where they at least admit that yeah, my religion got it wrong and still does.
That is honest.
I am happy for you WMF. It is a process to leave. I am glad you are at the point you are. Whether you ultimately choose to hang out on JWN or not is inconsequential to the fact that you are getting out of the fog. Peace!
this is an internet board.
as such, what makes it relevant, cool, or otherwise, are the people who choose to make themselves a part of this particular community.. internet forums of any stripe have regulars, visitors, curious, lurkers, and of course, trolls.
jw internet communities are no different.. many regulars who are here used to be jw's, and left for one reason or another.
Yknot, I respect you and always have because you are upfront about why you are there. You obviously have low standards for your group, and I totally get the "tradition" thing. Why rock the boat when it isn't your calling and it will only cause you problems.
I imagine that is why you have your location listed as Syrian Arab Republic. ;) Because you know what would happen if it were found out you were posting here.
Anyway, its all cool with me. I think its a little pie in the sky to think that JW's are just going to speculate and talk about what is wrong, and what will change, when there is so much that hurts other people.
But that isn't directed at you personally. You've got your thing, and that is good enough. I don't judge that.
closure isn't needed.
in georgia recently, a religious "criminal" died.
this one had been brought to account.
Well said!
