Just saw this. Was putting down some Ale's watching the USA (USA! USA! USA!) tie good ol England. We don't care how we do it, but next time, England should really consider having a goalie on their team for the next match.
AllTimeJeff
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Nazi Propaganda: Propaganda Techniques
by alice.in.wonderland inthe manipulation of information - jehovah's witnesses official web site.
"by clever and persevering use of propaganda even heaven can be represented as hell to the people, and conversely the most wretched life as paradise.
" adolf hitler, mein kampf.
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AllTimeJeff
AIW, why are you ignoring Ynot? Thats your best friend here, and yet, you ignore her. What the hell?
But you go after Mary, and others who are more to your target audience of arguing for no apparant reason. Here's your M.O. Stirring the pot, making ridiculous claims, getting called on them, then claiming persecution after you are called on them.
Good luck in your next life as a Chicago Cubs fan.
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ATTENTION LURKING JW'S WHO WONDER ABOUT "APOSTATES"......
by AllTimeJeff inthis is an internet board.
as such, what makes it relevant, cool, or otherwise, are the people who choose to make themselves a part of this particular community.. internet forums of any stripe have regulars, visitors, curious, lurkers, and of course, trolls.
jw internet communities are no different.. many regulars who are here used to be jw's, and left for one reason or another.
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Witness My Fury
Believe me, I understand. I am for understanding, but I at least need to see some ability to be honest on one thing. Be it the pedophile scandal, 1914, anything where they at least admit that yeah, my religion got it wrong and still does.
That is honest.
I am happy for you WMF. It is a process to leave. I am glad you are at the point you are. Whether you ultimately choose to hang out on JWN or not is inconsequential to the fact that you are getting out of the fog. Peace!
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ATTENTION LURKING JW'S WHO WONDER ABOUT "APOSTATES"......
by AllTimeJeff inthis is an internet board.
as such, what makes it relevant, cool, or otherwise, are the people who choose to make themselves a part of this particular community.. internet forums of any stripe have regulars, visitors, curious, lurkers, and of course, trolls.
jw internet communities are no different.. many regulars who are here used to be jw's, and left for one reason or another.
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AllTimeJeff
Yknot, I respect you and always have because you are upfront about why you are there. You obviously have low standards for your group, and I totally get the "tradition" thing. Why rock the boat when it isn't your calling and it will only cause you problems.
I imagine that is why you have your location listed as Syrian Arab Republic. ;) Because you know what would happen if it were found out you were posting here.
Anyway, its all cool with me. I think its a little pie in the sky to think that JW's are just going to speculate and talk about what is wrong, and what will change, when there is so much that hurts other people.
But that isn't directed at you personally. You've got your thing, and that is good enough. I don't judge that.
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Exposing the Sickness: they printed letter to editor on the WT's treatment of Ray Franz in the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, Sat.6/12/10
by not a captive inclosure isn't needed.
in georgia recently, a religious "criminal" died.
this one had been brought to account.
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AllTimeJeff
Well said!
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Why is this World Spiritually Blind?
by wannabe in" {revelation 12:9 nwt}.
" {john 14:15-17 nwt}.
" {john 14:6 nwt}.
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AllTimeJeff
Ok, I will play. Like all long boring books that don't interest me, I went right to the end and found this
Eight People made it through the Flood! Three out of Sodom and Gomorra. What did Jesus mean: "Just as?" The Same as in the days of Lot? " "Just like this when he is revealed?"
If nothing else, I'd say there's cause for great concern, for all of us right now. Wouldn't you?Wannabe
Well, I guess, except that in both cases where this supposedly happened, the spiritually blind ruled the earth again.
So what I learn from this is, god didn't get it right at the Flood or S&G. Look around. Are you saying 3 times the charm? Are you saying that under 10 people will be saved? If so, the math says the spiritually blind will be back as the direct descendents of (I am assuming) you Wannabe, and whoever has the unfortuante experience of mating with you.
I will take my chances. Time to get some housework done.
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Question for ex-elders
by startingover inis a publisher's record card necessary to df someone?
if a person had one, faded and does not live near nor had any contact with the congregation who holds it, nor any other congregation for 30 years, would you say they are off the radar?.
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AllTimeJeff
In my experience, yes. I tracked down a couple of faded JW's over 30 years gone and was told to leave them be. In one case, we had no publishers cards and was told to leave it be.
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Tutorial: How to write an effective argument or post.
by Cagefighter inhi, welcome potential jwn poster.
before you enter the world of jwn please take a moment to review some basic principles of communication.
so there you sit at your computer ready to start a topic.
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ATTENTION LURKING JW'S WHO WONDER ABOUT "APOSTATES"......
by AllTimeJeff inthis is an internet board.
as such, what makes it relevant, cool, or otherwise, are the people who choose to make themselves a part of this particular community.. internet forums of any stripe have regulars, visitors, curious, lurkers, and of course, trolls.
jw internet communities are no different.. many regulars who are here used to be jw's, and left for one reason or another.
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AllTimeJeff
Thats cool Yknot. But you can't expect former JW's who have learned things that contradict the teachings of the Governing Body to not share that.
But you are cool. :)
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ATTENTION LURKING JW'S WHO WONDER ABOUT "APOSTATES"......
by AllTimeJeff inthis is an internet board.
as such, what makes it relevant, cool, or otherwise, are the people who choose to make themselves a part of this particular community.. internet forums of any stripe have regulars, visitors, curious, lurkers, and of course, trolls.
jw internet communities are no different.. many regulars who are here used to be jw's, and left for one reason or another.
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AllTimeJeff
Here is the idiodicy of the Governing Body arguement that they want Jehovah's Witnesses to buy.
Jehovah is the most powerful being in the universe. He is the creator and deserves worship.
Jehovah, though being the most powerful being in the universe, was not powerful enough to preserve the pronunciation or translation of his name, or to even have it included even once in the Greek Scriptures.
So Satan has been allowed to fool us humans because Jehovah wanted to prove a point that takes thousands of years while our lifespans aren't even 100. Yet, he isn't as powerful as Jehovah. He is just way more interested in mankind then Jehovah is, right?
So how does Jehovah turn his attention to the planet he hasn't paid attention to since he supposedly sent his son? By using a super secret code taken from Daniel and Revelation, we come up with a number of 2,520 years from Jerusalems fall, which would put us at the year 1934. Oops!
Better to count backwards, insist that Jerusalem was actually destroyed in 607 BCE purely for the JW dogmatic convenience so that you can promote 1914, then insist that no JW can read critical literature, or even take seriously ALL OF THE HISTORY BOOKS IN SCHOOLS, COLLEGES, AND LIBRARIES.
From there, once you shut the door to verify the GB crap, now you can insist that Jesus came invisibly in 1914 (because the GB said so) and that he chose Rutherford and the other jailed members invisibly in 1919 (because the GB says so). And that the generation that saw those years will be around to see Armageddon.
Oops! Wrong again. Have to change that 50 year old teaching. It wasn't wrong, the light just got brighter.
Anyway, my point is simple. When you break it down, its really all a bunch of lies. The only reason the GB howls about apostates is that once a person learns this, they leave. They don't ever go back, simply because they know this cooky little group is beyond repair.