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  New Testament support for the name Yahweh?

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  excuse me if this has been discussed before but im looking for evidence that any of the nt authors knew that the name yahweh (yahveh, jehovah, yhwh, or any variation) existed.

  im testing a naive hypothesis that says that the nt authors were reading from the lxx and that they only saw kurios.

  keep in mind im a complete novice and a (friendly) dangerous idiot.

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  WhatSexRU

  Thanks Narkissos. You understood me. This is incredible!
  
  
  What are your thoughts on the on “the Power” in Mark 14:62?
  
  
  Did “Jesus” say the divine name YHWH?
  
  
  Is this why he was guilty of blasphemy?
  
  
  Or was he guilty of blasphemy for some other reason?
  
  
  Do you see where I am going with this?
  
  
  Were the authors of the NT aware of the name YHWH and did they think it was blasphemy to say it?
  
  
  Or,
  
  
  Was “Jesus” guilty of blasphemy because he claimed to be “the anointed one” (or something similar)?
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  New Testament support for the name Yahweh?

  by WhatSexRU in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excuse me if this has been discussed before but im looking for evidence that any of the nt authors knew that the name yahweh (yahveh, jehovah, yhwh, or any variation) existed.

  im testing a naive hypothesis that says that the nt authors were reading from the lxx and that they only saw kurios.

  keep in mind im a complete novice and a (friendly) dangerous idiot.

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  WhatSexRU

  No, I think that is very remote. The Canaanite/Israelite figure of El may indeed lie behind the Danielic and Enochic "Ancient of Days"/"Head of Days" (and the Enochic concept is clearly anticipatory of the Son of Man language in Mark 14:62 ), but nowhere is this figure called El in late Second Temple writings, nor would 'ly in Psalm 22 have been interpretable as "my El" imho.

  I think you’re probably right but I wanted to bounce it around to elicit any comments. You never know what might fall out when you shake a tree.

  What are your thoughts on “the Power” in Mark 14:62? Is this just a placeholder for the divine name YHWH?

  Where did that expression come from? Is it used anywhere else?

  What did it mean to commit blasphemy in Mark 14? Did Jesus need to drop 'the name' or would claiming to be 'the anointed one' suffice?

  Kothar sitting at the right hand of Baal??? Where in the world does this come from?

  From Ugaritic mythology. Ditto the footstool.

  Baal is also not in Psalm 110 ; the word for "lord" in v. 5 is 'dny "my lord", i.e. not involving b`l "lord/master" I know.

  Sorry. I wanted to talk about the similarities between Ugaritic mythology and Psalm 110, but I tried to go too fast and it came out weird.

  Most folks think that Mark 14:62 is an allusion to Daniel 7 AND Psalm 110. But I’m a weirdo and I’m wondering if Psalm 110 is really necessary. Could the "sitting at the right hand" stuff have come from somewhere else?

  This all ties into the issue of if any of the authors of the NT knew about the name YHWH because AFAIK the episode “Jesus vs. Sanhedrin” is the only place that comes close. Am I making any sense?

  BTW Michael Heiser wrote a rebuttal to Mark S. Smith’s take on Deut 32:8~9 and Psalm 82. Have you read it?
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  New Testament support for the name Yahweh?

  by WhatSexRU in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excuse me if this has been discussed before but im looking for evidence that any of the nt authors knew that the name yahweh (yahveh, jehovah, yhwh, or any variation) existed.

  im testing a naive hypothesis that says that the nt authors were reading from the lxx and that they only saw kurios.

  keep in mind im a complete novice and a (friendly) dangerous idiot.

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  WhatSexRU

  Also - concerning Psalm 110 and Kothar sitting at the right hand of Baal: Can anyone point me to any biblical or extra biblical texts that might serve as intermediate steps toward Jesus sitting at the right hand of God?
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  New Testament support for the name Yahweh?

  by WhatSexRU in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excuse me if this has been discussed before but im looking for evidence that any of the nt authors knew that the name yahweh (yahveh, jehovah, yhwh, or any variation) existed.

  im testing a naive hypothesis that says that the nt authors were reading from the lxx and that they only saw kurios.

  keep in mind im a complete novice and a (friendly) dangerous idiot.

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  WhatSexRU

  Is anyone familiar with the Gospel of Peter?
  
  
  Evidently Jesus cries from the cross, “My power, my power, thou hast forsaken me.”
  
  
  If this is an allusion to Psalm 22 then couldn’t “My power” be taken as a reference to El?
  
  
  Compare that to Mark 14:62 where Jesus says “Power.”
  
  
  Was Jesus’ crime that he said “El?”
  
  
  Did the author of Mark 14 think that the sacred name was El?
  
  
  I - know - I’m weird.
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  New Testament support for the name Yahweh?

  by WhatSexRU in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excuse me if this has been discussed before but im looking for evidence that any of the nt authors knew that the name yahweh (yahveh, jehovah, yhwh, or any variation) existed.

  im testing a naive hypothesis that says that the nt authors were reading from the lxx and that they only saw kurios.

  keep in mind im a complete novice and a (friendly) dangerous idiot.

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  WhatSexRU

  The thing I hear all the time is that the name YHWH was considered sacred and taboo, and that’s why YHWH was replaced with LORD. But even if that is true then isn’t it also possible that the NT authors never knew about the name YHWH? Also, what specifically was Jesus accused of in Mark 14? What constituted blasphemy? Was it that he said YHWH? Or is it that he claimed to be the anointed one?
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  New Testament support for the name Yahweh?

  by WhatSexRU in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excuse me if this has been discussed before but im looking for evidence that any of the nt authors knew that the name yahweh (yahveh, jehovah, yhwh, or any variation) existed.

  im testing a naive hypothesis that says that the nt authors were reading from the lxx and that they only saw kurios.

  keep in mind im a complete novice and a (friendly) dangerous idiot.

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  WhatSexRU

  Thanks everyone. Great info. But I think you misunderstood me (it happens all the time). I know that the name YHWH was replaced with the title LORD in the LXX. And I know that the NT followed. But what I want to know is if the various authors of the NT were even aware that the name YHWH existed? I know I’m being weird - but please deal with it. Suppose for the sake of argument that they (any of the various authors of the NT) thought that the LORD was a title for Theos, or Elohim, or El. How do we know that they knew that the name YHWH existed?
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  New Testament support for the name Yahweh?

  by WhatSexRU in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  excuse me if this has been discussed before but im looking for evidence that any of the nt authors knew that the name yahweh (yahveh, jehovah, yhwh, or any variation) existed.

  im testing a naive hypothesis that says that the nt authors were reading from the lxx and that they only saw kurios.

  keep in mind im a complete novice and a (friendly) dangerous idiot.

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  WhatSexRU

  Hi. Excuse me if this has been discussed before but I’m looking for evidence that any of the NT authors knew that the name Yahweh (Yahveh, Jehovah, YHWH, or any variation) existed. I’m testing a naïve hypothesis that says that the NT authors were reading from the LXX and that they only saw kurios. Keep in mind I’m a complete novice and a (friendly) dangerous idiot.
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  Did Revelation come from Egypt?

  by WhatSexRU in

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  hi,.

  ive read a couple of things on the internet that say that revelation was written in egypt.. is this true?.

  i bet someone does - i occasionally see some really great posts around here.. - thanks in advance.

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  WhatSexRU

  Thanks. You kick ass. I never saw this. It’s funny how Google hits and misses your material. Let me read it a few times. I gotta go for now.
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  Did Revelation come from Egypt?

  by WhatSexRU in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,.

  ive read a couple of things on the internet that say that revelation was written in egypt.. is this true?.

  i bet someone does - i occasionally see some really great posts around here.. - thanks in advance.

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  WhatSexRU

  Hi Leolaia,
  
  
  A friend on another forum pointed me to these:
  
  
  http://www.papyrology.ox.ac.uk/POxy/papyri/the_papyri.html
  
  
  http://www.papyrology.ox.ac.uk/POxy/beast/beast616.html
  
  
  At issue is if “John the Presbyter” was the original author
  
  
  - or if he was just copying
  
  
  - or perhaps he was not the author at all.
  
  
  And sorry about the weird formatting. As you can see I can't get a grip on the Cr/Lf.
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  Did Revelation come from Egypt?

  by WhatSexRU in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,.

  ive read a couple of things on the internet that say that revelation was written in egypt.. is this true?.

  i bet someone does - i occasionally see some really great posts around here.. - thanks in advance.

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  WhatSexRU

  Hi,

  I’ve read a couple of things on the Internet that say that Revelation was written in Egypt.

  Is this true?

  Does anyone know about this?

  I bet someone does - I occasionally see some really great posts around here.

  - Thanks in advance