at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.
there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.
there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.
I wonder when the decision to close the Branch happened and when the decision to do the "international" convention was made. New Zealand decreased in pubs, and baptisms for 2012 Report. How much the international convention sparks things up again will remain to be seen.
Thanks for the report. Watching the WT where ever and all over will be interesting for 2013 and 2014 for certain.
at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.
there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.
there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.
As far as the idea of it going back to pre-70s of having just a "congregation servant" won't last long anyway. Back then, they were burning out too. Part of the "1975" push was to spark people up, and it did for the short while. I thought then in the early '70s, the "new light" was just a needed measure so as to work as a 'group' instead of so much on just one.
Bottomline, the organization is just a religion to "burn out" people. It promises "short-term" in this world, but is not made to deal with 'long-term' realities for people.
ok ,so this is my story , this jw girl came on vacation in my country as a friend of my girl-cousin who is not a jw but were classmates at uni .
my cousin introduced her to me but she didnt tell me that she was a jw from the very first moment we flirt each other.we went on beach ,on bars ,cafes etc and she acted so wordly ,in fact i thought she could be a good one night stand with her behaviour .never saw anything weird about her that could lead me to question something, with the peak in the club where we danced together while hugging very passionatly .
i tried to kiss her that night but she kept her distance , i didnt notice any bad on that.anyway, next day we flirt again at the the beach and at night too .
I think with her "split personality" between herself and jw self, it will be impossible,,all the more so with the long distance issue. You invested a trip for this 'play' on her part. Please don't invest anymore for this horrible journey.
By the way, it is not just the JW girls that play this; the JW guys are doing it too.
at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.
there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.
there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.
A couple days ago a poster stated Britain has 12,675 elders and 9,646 M.S. Britain has 1,544 (according to WW Report) so that is 8 elders and 6 M.S. per avg. cong.
Curious if U.S. is about that also?
has anyone heard about this?
we received an email from an old friend who is still an elder and doesn't know what we are up to.
"a change, they are no longer training missionaries and sending them into foreign fields.
What downsizing is happening??
2011, WTS spent $173 million of special pioneers, missionaries and TOs.
2012, spent $184 million. (6.4% increase)
According to Worldwide Service Report.
???
2011, Branch staff 20,595
2012, Branch staff 21,612 - 5% increase
???
i know in aug 2012 km for 'u.s.
' report was 370,804 auxillary pios.
' but has anyone read anything about the 'worldwide' aux.
thank you, 88JM
According to their numbers, then, in U.S. 32% Aux'd last March; Britain, 46% did; and worldwide 38% Aux'd last March.
i know in aug 2012 km for 'u.s.
' report was 370,804 auxillary pios.
' but has anyone read anything about the 'worldwide' aux.
Steve, I was just trying to get the two-part breakdown of the Aux. Pios. The 2012 Service Report gives the 'Avg. Aux.' for Worldwide at 416,993/mo. Of course that includes the March 30-hr auxs, which is 'merged in' with the rest of the year's 50-hr auxs.
For example, the Report shows for the 'U.S.' Av. Aux. Pio. Pubs. at 59,501. They included 30-hr 'March only' Aux. which was 370,804 so it can 'askew' the reality of the avg. 50-hr auxs. So in the U.S., the 50-hr auxs. were actually 28,601/mo.
Anyway, bottomline, their 50-hr. auxs. are dropping a lot according to their own records. Also, even, their 30-hr auxs. are decreasing greatly as well. Just another bar they lower but their reality is decreasing.
i know in aug 2012 km for 'u.s.
' report was 370,804 auxillary pios.
' but has anyone read anything about the 'worldwide' aux.
I know in Aug 2012 KM for 'U.S.' report was 370,804 auxillary pios. for 'March 2012.' But has anyone read anything about the 'Worldwide' aux. pio. number for 'March 2012?'
The Avg. Aux, Pio. showed overall for 2012 Worldwide in Avg. Aux. Pios. a decrease of 10.7%
has there ever been any official letters stating the amount of field service required to be considered exemplary?
usually the number given is 10hrs, but if you look up " 10 hours " in the cd-library you get 14 hits.
none from the bible of course, and only 3-5 are related to field service.
For U.S., according to 2012 WTS Report figures, average pub. hrs comes to 7.68 hrs/mo. (assuming all pios & auxs made/counted their required time)
just got back from florida where i spent the holidays with family.
about half are jdubs.. this year the prevalent atmosphere of superiority from the jw side of the family was totally toned down.
one of my cousins, a bethelite in upstate ny bethel along with his wife, found out that the wife was having an affair with a young bethelite "brother".
I thought for sure he would be asked to leave Bethel, but it seems that might not be happening.
Not understanding,,how would he not be asked to leave Bethel? I don't see that 'they' would be allowed to stay after that.
