Talking about elders with families. Phone always rang at dinner time. Dad worked at assemblies. Built Kingdom Halls on many a weekend. We had to stay late after meetings for dad with extra responsiblities there. When many of second or third generations get raised (as the end didn't come) , the women just wouldn't/couldn't be that self-sacrificing. It takes it toll on most families.
Posts by Gayle
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43May 15 2013 WT: "REAL elders skip meals and lose sleep!"
by cedars infinally we have the society's expectations of elders in print.. this is from page 9 of the may 15th study edition.... "as indicated by the experiences of the apostle paul, our ministry may result in sleepless nights and times without food.
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6:5) these expressions paint a vivid picture of self-sacrifice and may well remind us of pioneers who give their ministry first place in life while supporting themselves financially.
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Japanese Traditional Wedding // Kenichi & Ayaka
by possible-san injapanese traditional wedding // kenichi & ayaka.
this is old japanese traditional wedding.. oami (nagano japan) are preserved for the old japanese scenic views.. but 70% of the population is over the age of 65.. wedding took place in the the village for the first time in 42 years.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f82apclis5e.
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Gayle
Thank you, possible-san,,that was beautiful. Japanese traditions are so very intriguing and touching.
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May 15, 2013 WT up on jw.org now
by Gayle inhas article, page 32 which states about their 'neutrality' policy.
although our position as christian neutrals may not have been fully understood by our brothers nearly a century ago, they sought to please jehovah god.
this is aggravating, as the wts had 'policy' for so many years that jws could not do 'alternative' service.
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Gayle
Has article, page 32 which states about their 'neutrality' policy
Although our position as Christian neutrals may not have been fully understood by our brothers nearly a century ago, they sought to please Jehovah God.
This is aggravating, as the WTS had 'policy' for so many years that JWs could not do 'alternative' service. This was under threat that the young JW boys would be DA'd. They had no true personal choice.
I saw how some went to prison and the WT would not let them personaly choose "alternative" though the judges would plead for them to do so. Now, that policy changed.
It is clear, again, how the leadership always blame "the brothers" for "misunderstanding," yet the fault lies in the leadership.
GRrrrrrh! How they always escape any accountability.
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Letter: 30 hour quota to be extended to additional months
by 88JM inread out at the service meeting this week.. ===================================.
january 21, 2013. to all congregations.
re: thirty-hour quota for auxiliary pioneering.
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Gayle
'Auxillary' pioneers numbers were dropping critically< thus the change> 'Regular' Pioneers are increasing yet quite a bit,,doubt they'll lower the bar on that yet.
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April 15, 2013 Watchtower - p. 22-26: Organization-Obsessed Much???
by sd-7 inthere's a study article "make sure of the more important things", and in no uncertain terms the article makes clear that "jehovah's organization" is the most important thing.
the term "organization" or "jehovah's organization" is used a whopping 24 times in the article, including a subheading titled: "follow the example of jehovah's organization".
i thought organizations were entities, but that sort of subheading makes it seem like the organization is one giant person whose example we can follow.
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Gayle
continued,,,
fact was, that the Headquarters made all these men to please the Headquarters/organization. Most would have chosen alternative service but that wasn't allowed without penalty to be "DA'd" Makes me so angry as their half-truth of theirs. making this decision was the lowly young men,but it was organization's rule. Ugh,,they had to live their lives with prison records,,and the baggage of all that.
Wonder, what some felt when now it changed that they can do alternative service?
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April 15, 2013 Watchtower - p. 22-26: Organization-Obsessed Much???
by sd-7 inthere's a study article "make sure of the more important things", and in no uncertain terms the article makes clear that "jehovah's organization" is the most important thing.
the term "organization" or "jehovah's organization" is used a whopping 24 times in the article, including a subheading titled: "follow the example of jehovah's organization".
i thought organizations were entities, but that sort of subheading makes it seem like the organization is one giant person whose example we can follow.
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Gayle
just scanned thru very quickly..page 32,,was article of JWs going to prison during wwI, this sentence got me: "
Although our position as Christian neutrals may not have been
fully understood by our brothers nearly a century ago, they sought
to please Jehovah God.**************************************************************************************************************************
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April 15, 2013 Watchtower - p. 22-26: Organization-Obsessed Much???
by sd-7 inthere's a study article "make sure of the more important things", and in no uncertain terms the article makes clear that "jehovah's organization" is the most important thing.
the term "organization" or "jehovah's organization" is used a whopping 24 times in the article, including a subheading titled: "follow the example of jehovah's organization".
i thought organizations were entities, but that sort of subheading makes it seem like the organization is one giant person whose example we can follow.
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Gayle
It's on now: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130515/
I haven't read it yet.
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April 15, 2013 Watchtower - p. 22-26: Organization-Obsessed Much???
by sd-7 inthere's a study article "make sure of the more important things", and in no uncertain terms the article makes clear that "jehovah's organization" is the most important thing.
the term "organization" or "jehovah's organization" is used a whopping 24 times in the article, including a subheading titled: "follow the example of jehovah's organization".
i thought organizations were entities, but that sort of subheading makes it seem like the organization is one giant person whose example we can follow.
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Gayle
sd-7 had the 4-15-13 WT on line here Jan 8. I can't find the 5-15-13 WT up yet and now 2-14,,when is the study WT mag suppose to go online? Anyone know how their schedule goes for that? Thx
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"Why Do Many Male Jehovah Witnesses Who Learn TTATT Grow Beards"?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inthe year once 1983 and the brother who use to study the bible with me drove by and had a full on "charles manson" looking facial hair and beard.
i asked tina, a friend what's up with him?
tina was 19 and a hot red-head woman who was partially in the religion but had problems with fornication.
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Gayle
My dad grew a beard for awhile. My brothers didn't grow beards but wouldn't wear a suit for years.
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My pioneer sister called yesterday
by mamamo inas soon as i saw the number i knew something bad had happened.
seems my mother (71) has breast cancer in her remaining breast.
her first time was in 2001. i volunteered my son's services for taxiing back and forth or whatever is needed.
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Gayle
So sorry to hear about your mom. I hope treatments will help again. Such a difficult time for a whole family.
My mother died of Hodgkins cancer. Of course, all comments were that she would be resurrected 'soon.' That was in 1970.