Posts by Gayle

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INTERNATIONAL CONVENTIONS!!! A LOVING PROVISION FROM THE GB!

by DATA-DOG in

everyone is thrilled at the reading of the latest letters on "international conventions", just ecstatic!!

why, you msy ask?

if you are jw who is exemplary ( that leaves me out, i assume.

Gayle

What percentage of JWs really go to these out of country Internationals? 1% or less? Most can't afford them, and probably most don't want to even go.

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Article: It's Time to Outlaw Extreme Shunning in Modern Society

by AndersonsInfo in

http://gilmermirror.com/bookmark/23272594/article-extreme%20shunning#.ufwjurllscm.facebook.

extreme shunningthe gilmer mirror.

its time to outlaw extreme shunning in modern society by: richard e. kelly .

I don't know how soon about legal laws would come into U.S. or other countries about shunning. But awareness to the attention and public awareness has changed our culture and people's attitudes first and greatly. There are many affected on many issues. Drinking and driving for many years only created a shrug, or helpless situation. Legally and in public opinion, for so long nothing/much could be done. The laws got more defined. Also, wife beating, (that was only like a marriage privacy concern for so long) child abuses or neglects (degrees of physical disciplines and emotional abuses, so called for a long time only spanking or discipline,,family issue only). Laws there have gotten more defined.

So, hurting anyone in marriage, and hurting one's children have become public and not so 'private' and the law(s) have gotten more specific and some would complain, invasive. However, there is more studies of the long-term effect of such behaviors impacting public society.

I see, at least the media news and tv having real accounts of the Amish. At least they don't recruit so not as threatening. However, seemingly only a peaceful people with no electricity or cars, now people are aghast how they throw out their youth and shun them. They emotionally are not prepared for a life outside, and only going to school till eight grade doesn't help. Also, Scientology is getting exposure. I wouldn't have known as much about these religions if it weren't for their "apostates" or their previous members who are informing. The Scientologists vocal "apostates" are impacting that religion for certain.

Extreme practices within some Islam sects and even some Christian groups, have the laws challenged.

Laws do get defined, but very slowly.

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watchtower tones down apostate talk at august 3rd convention!

by nowwhat? in

no mention of them being mentally diseased or using "lies" to deceive god's people, just that they are out to attract followers for themselves!.

p.s.

i was cringing at the thought of sitting for 3 1/2 hours for the afternoon session but fortunately my one kid got sick!!

Gayle

Seemed like one speaker (on the talk about apostates and DF'd family members) put too much enunciation & emotion into the words. Guess he stirred things up. And one says the same words, but softly, less emotion, but matter of fact tone. Still, it's 'all' hateful.

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"Pst! You CAN go to an international convention even if you're poor, but don't tell everyone!"

by cedars in

the 2014/2015 international conventions have been announced, and will be held in the following cities.... melbourne, australia october 2014london, england august 2014quito, ecuador january 2015frankfurt, germany july 2014athens, greece june 2014seoul, korea september 2014mexico city, mexico november 2014harare, zimbabwe august 2014as always there is a long list of requirements for those wealthy enough to attend - including the requirement to keep your "exemplary status" right up to the day of departure or lose all your money.. there is also a curious paragraph that seems to indicate an element of subterfuge.... special rooming: confidentially, we will be asking the host branch office to poll local brothers to determine if some might be able to provide limited rooming provisions in private homes.

this information is not to be made known to the applicants in general.

however, if the elders are aware of a longtime, faithful servant, perhaps with many years of full-time service, who is not able to fully finance such a trip, he could be encouraged to apply and the secretary can check the box on the electronic jw.org application that this delegate qualifies for the special rooming provision, if available.. basically, watchtower is admitting that it is possible to attend an international convention even if you can't afford the hotel, but they don't want everyone to know because they want as many full-paying delegates as possible.. my article on this can be found on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/watchtower-announces-new-international-conventions-while-downsizing-district-conventions-for-2014.

Gayle

wow,,,

"we are so poor, financialy strapped. we can only go overseas 'once' this year"

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Going to Kingdom Hall for first time

by InChristAlone in

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friends

since my family is out of town, and i am alone this weekend, i have decided to attend this once to see these things for myself.

have no fear, i have absolutely no interest in joining.

my goal is simply to better understand how to reach those who are on the inside, and i feel i could better do that by observing it.

Gayle

You may be loved=bombed, as like from a car salesman.

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No more district assemblies in Tri-Cities. News article

by Indian Larry in

for years the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses has held a regional convention in the tri-cities, attracting about 16,000 of the faithful who spend an estimated $8.6 million while in town.. .

but they won't be coming in 2014.. "what they told me is the decision has been made nationally to downsize the number of conventions from 400 to 100. they're simply consolidating," said kris watkins, president and ceo of the tri-cities visitor & convention bureau in kennewick.. .

read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2013/08/01/2500842/jehovahs-witnesses-convention.html#storylink=cpy .

Gayle

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/217458/1/Oct-22nd-Zone-Meeting-Heres-some-facts-and-figures-presented-to-ticketed-only-audiences

45 Assembly Halls reported here.

Thought I saw mention of 48 somewhere.

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Jehovah's Witnesses among six other groups added to hate crime stats of USA Justice Department.

by Sol Reform in

in june, an fbi advisory board approved tracking crimes against sikhs, hindus, arabs, buddhists, mormons, jehovah's witnesses and orthodox christians.

fbi director robert mueller signed off on the board's recommendations.. http://www.jsonline.com/news/usandworld/sikhs-added-to-hate-crime-stats-b9967444z1-218102831.html.

meanwhile, congregants not warned of the danger of member pedophiles is not a 'hate crime'.. u.s. and worldsikhs, six other groups added to hate crime statsjustice department makes change near anniversary of killing of 6 sikh worshippers in oak creekby ashley luthern of the journal sentinelupdated: 2:33 p.m.. sikh temple shooting.

Gayle

Surprised Scientology wasn't listed. I mean most people don't really hate JWs. Most people see Scientology as crazy teachings and costly for the big bucks. But their members leaving are very vocal about their dissatisfaction of that church.

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2014 District Conventions to downsize 400 to 100 - "consolidating"

by Gayle in

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2013/08/01/2500842/jehovahs-witnesses-convention.html.

what they told me is the decision has been made nationally to downsize the number of conventions from 400 to 100. they're simply consolidating,".

read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2013/08/01/2500842/jehovahs-witnesses-convention.html#storylink=cpy

Gayle

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2013/08/01/2500842/jehovahs-witnesses-convention.html

What they told me is the decision has been made nationally to downsize the number of conventions from 400 to 100. They're simply consolidating,"

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Petition in England: "Ban Jehovah's Witnesses!" - (HM Government)

by Oubliette in

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i stumbled upon this on a hungarian ex-jw blog.

does anyone in the uk know anything about this?

of course jws will just see this at "proof" that "the is near!

Gayle

In most countries, the government won't ban a religion. However, if there's a way to ban a "behavior," like U.S. banned plural marriages on the LDS/Mormons. Exposures of the handful of negative practices of the WTS is needed the most.

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Another one...nine felony counts - Sun Valley, CA

by Dagney in

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.

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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .

Gayle

These cases are just popping up all over!! Makes me wonder how many don't even go public because of settlements?!