Posts by Gayle

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Greek Bethel up for sale: video - 77 Kifisias Avenue, Marousi, Athens

by darkspilver in

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the greek bethel at 77 kifisias avenue, marousi, athens, is up for sale.

below is the sales video:https://vimeo.com/242230932see also: http://www.danos.gr/property-sale-in-marousi/.

from the bethel tour brochure:.

Gayle

not rebuilding another one, cheaper, w/free labor, and still coming up with sizable profit?

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Congregation dwindles

by wannaexit in

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i think we are going to be seeing lots more of this stuff.

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http://www.capjournal.com/news/pierre-jehovah-s-witnesses-put-up-smaller-kingdom-hall-to/article_e05d9c36-d8b9-11e7-acb3-9f63fb65c896.html.

Gayle

That KH looks like a pre-fab warehouse.

I lived in Pierre '59-63. A teenager then. We went there to serve "where the need was great." Ugh.

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284000 baptized in 2017

by jw-verite in

seen in the 03/2018 watchtower study :.

"during the 2017 service year, more than 284,000 “rightly disposed” individuals symbolized their dedication to jehovah by water baptism.".

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-march-2018/baptism-requirement-for-christians/.

JW.org will burn out these ones even more quickly. The organization will teach them to "eke" out, when the most are already doing that. The org will teach them not to seek higher education when just getting 'some' education is necessary challenge. The WT won't help them to get basic education. Health needs are a challenge.

The GB will not have any sympathy for the populations in the African continent. It will stand out how much the GB asks for money all the time. Some of the African governments might not be very WT.org friendly either.

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Higher Education

by Brian J in

just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

Gayle

Yet, if the individual already has a four-year degree that the WT can utilize at headquarters, and they will work for free. then the WT has no problem using them.

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Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children

by cha ching in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.

interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..

Gayle

I think the best thing is to expose JW tactics. The government could make sure that all these pedophile, blood transfusion, family shunning atrocities of JWs are published with facts in the news, television, and internet news very regularly. Sure, some JWs would be undaunted but many will be confused and ashamed. The regular public would be aware and would present these things to JWs regularly face to face.

Their children could be exposed to this info in school. Taking the JW children away from their family/siblings would bring on another set of emotional problems so I disagree to take their children away. As a JW kid, I would have hated the government to do that. (Fortunately, my 4 siblings and I all left the org in early adult years around the same time ((4 of us pioneered and went to Bethel too)) and we have a bond inseparable. We understand our exclusive sarcasm and humor.)

Also, the government could make sure, that no money by JWs could be sent out of country to the JW headquarters. The government could refuse the JWs any tax-free status. Also, the government could refuse any JW gatherings larger than a certain amount, say like no larger than 100 at any given time.

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How much in total do you think the W.T.S has payed out in child abuse cases??

by karter in

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they have settled a lot out of court with gagging orders both ways so we will never know how much was payed out there.but some have been made public.

any ideas how much in total?.

karter

Gayle

I wondered several months ago when Steve Lett , governing body, said on their jwbroadcasting, that more money is going out than coming in. On what? Settlements? All their properties selling in Brooklyn, should have given them cushion for all their building Upstate?

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Fasten Your Seatbelts - The Crazy Has Started (Also, bring the Koolaid)

by berrygerry in

from facebook:just saw my jw mother after not seeing her for more than 2 years.

when i do see her, it is brief, she never asks about my life, doesn't ask about my 4 children her grandchildren, doesn't ask about my grandchildren...her great grandchildren, she doesn't ask about my other 2 brothers that she is also alienated from, she doesn't ask about my brothers family.

she doesn't talk about the jw/org either.

Gayle

It's so sad for the elderly people now. They have no other way to re-interpret all these changes within the WT. They are so totally confused.

It's like they are in a very small village. They have only shopped at the one lone store for all their needs. They accepted as told long ago that the food there was the only 'good' food. Recently, they have been informed by this market that the supposed fresh foods is going down to 12.5% (mags from 48 to 6) 'soon.' There are some canned goods (or some penny candies) yet but the items are approaching their 'expiration' date.

They can't figure out where else they can go. So, they are stuck with depression or panic. SAD ("stuck" and "depressed."

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Exjw activists protesting inside a Kingdom Hall today!

by Crazyguy in

spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.

several people speak out.

if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.

Gayle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvNhwTtw6GQ

Are the GB responding about this "flash mob" event of apostates!. Trying to "nip it in the bud?" The GB are too late!!

(About 6 min. in)

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Exjw activists protesting inside a Kingdom Hall today!

by Crazyguy in

spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.

several people speak out.

if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.

Gayle

Just concerned about the legal "Right to Peaceful Assembly."

I know to peacefully protesting 'outside' the property would be fine. However, going 'inside' a KH to protest may not be legal. ?

(I do chuckle how Zeb remains so calm and unemotional and thankful and sweet sounding, even all the way out the door as he is escorted. (?) His manner seems to confuse the elders.

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What can the leadership at Watchtower do to turn things around?

by UnshackleTheChains in

let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.

they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.

they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).

Gayle

To stop the shunning, is very critical to JWdom. Shunning keeps the cult in control, strong.

Shedding shunning, even gradually, would allow for the 'personal conscience' to develop. Then, one's start developing their own guidelines. They will get more comfortable to 'think,' to define what is really bad or not. Like whether they personally will socialize with their relative or friends that formerly would have been df'd. Then others will start thinking their conscience is clear to celebrate a birthday of a 1 yr old or not or an 80 year old family member. Then, Thanksgiving, which not truly of pagan origins, etc. Higher educaion will become less threatening. Many members would gradually integrate into the real world. They will begin to trust themselves that they won't be getting evil (as the WT threatens).