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  MUST WATCH! Watchtower's Shocking Admissions

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  watchtower's shocking admissions.

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  Gayle

  So, 90 "peak" pubs per avg. cong. (2017 annual report)

  What would be the 'average amount of chairs' in an avg. KH be?

  The thing is, the Christians in first century were growing just fine in the first century apparently without "KHs" at all.
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  Leaked video- Watchtower's Preaching Initiative SIFT

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  watchtower's leaked video.... watchtower's preaching initiative sift.

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  Gayle

  It makes sense to go door to door when people are at home. However, most JWs don't really want to talk to anyone much either anyway. Years (maybe decades ago) some ruling came out to go door to door prior to the "book study" night meeting (8pm) so to go about 6:30pm.(?) That lasted some weeks, but died out. I went with my dad but didn't like it at all, especially as it darkened in the winter by then.

  In 1975, a circuit overseer made a ruling during one week, that everyone should work alone, so as to cover the "territory" better, faster because of end "so soon" then. The sisters mumbled to me how they didn't like it. I just settled them down that after the circuit overseer left that we can just go back to working together again. (I had just left Bethel some months prior and had lost some unquestioning spirit by then and was then in a long, unraveling process of questioning thousands of knots and tangles of JWdom.)

  Anyway, most JWs don't like going door-to-door, not really.
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  How to spot awake JW at a convention

  by Akid48 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i cant spot one to save my life, so i wanted to now if any one could me figure out how..

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  Gayle

  My last convention, I felt like a spy in a foreign land. During the prayer, I looked around and was surprised how so many children were only goofing around (silently), including my children. Surprisingly, I caught several adults, wide-eyed looking around too.
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  Just got my DVD Apostasy.

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my dvd arrived from amazon today.

  will be having pizza corona and a movie night tonight.

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  Gayle

  I rented "Apostasy" movie thru Amazon for $5.00. It is accurate. Such a sad, depressive, suppressive life.
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  Reg Pioneers went down around 50,000 ?

  by Wakanda in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yesterday's wt study (june 17) said: .

  records show that in the last five years, the average number of regular pioneers has grown to over 1,100,000 and more than a quarter of a million worldwide have been added to the ranks of full-time preachers.. well, in 2013 they had an average of 950,022 pioneers, and in 2017 they had 1,249,946. looks like they lost some!.

  also, the quarter million was a lot of turnover, which... wait for it... any thinking person would know!.

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  Gayle

  ?? So if last year according to Yearly Report there were 1,249,946 (regular?) pioneers and 'now' they claim "the average number of regular pioneers has 'grown to' over 1,100,000." This would be a 'decrease' since last year of 149,946 or about 12%! I am not understanding!

  
  
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  I Think Their Is A Move Coming From Higher Ups To Get These Insane Idiot Out Of The Drivers Seat Of Jehovah's Chariot

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  look at all the lawsuits, scandals, unsuccessful cover up, contribution shrinkage, stopped building project, and much more.

  these guys are steering jehovah's chariot off a cliff if someone don't put the breaks on these delusional clowns.. so what do you think is there something a foot there at chemical dump clean up site warwick?

  i bet you a coup is in the offing, because you know not everyone close to the governing body believes their bull shit but are playing along until the time is right to keep the wt ship from sinking like the titanic..

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  Gayle

  So, was that, after May broadcast (last year?) of request for donations, only $30M was received in July & Aug? So, with about 8M pubs., they only responded with not even $2 per month per pub.? Doesn't sound like much of a donation response!
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  Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  it’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.

  aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.

  it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.

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  Gayle

  Seems to have a message along with depressing music of a death march for everyone to get out in harms way deliberately. A suicide mission spirit. No one was hiding in little apartments or basement bunkers, like their previous videos or pictures showed. Like "Be Ready to Meet Your Death" but somewhere out of the blue last minute God/Jesus will save them. It is a depression inducing film for certain.
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  Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.

  aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.

  it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.

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  Gayle

  I have been out of org a few decades. But I can't imagine my young children then seeing such a production. Most parents don't allow their young children to watch "gun" movies, let alone ones with "automatic" guns. Then, it would have to be explained to the children that the unimpressive "bow and arrow" of God would be more powerful somehow- ? The music was depressive of course, kind of a death march. Young children growing up with this visual depressive content and fear for their future is abusive. The Governing Body are extremely insensitive to children and most never had any children themselves.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  Gayle

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  $14.00 in 1970 had the same buying power as $91.55 in 2018

  Annual inflation over this period was about 3.99%

  https://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=1&year=1970

  So $14/mo in 1970 had less value than $200-$300 a month now. Some Bethelites did side jobs ("g jobs") like

  renovations/plumbing for their old car expenses/gas/beer.
  
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  Ex-jw Fifth interviews Bethelite from 1975. Well worth watching!

  by Diogenesister in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  another great interview by fifth here.

  this lady was at bethel in 1975 and reminisces that many women at bethel expressed enormous regret at not having a family.

  it seems that many witnesses back then were aware that watchtower really didn't know what they were talking about when it came to making predictions.. https://youtu.be/7dyooih3fji.

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  Gayle

  Is it possible to contact Joy? I left Bethel 6/74, Married at Bethel 10/73, got pregnant 6 mos. later so we left, best things to happen to me, I always tell her she (my daughter) saved me. I laughed hearing Joy singing as I also heard it "if you're nervous the service, have a baby."

  Joy may have known my sister, Debbie Barr. They left around the time that Joy left maybe. Always glad to hear ones from Bethel leaving and many leaving the org. altogether. It's all such a laughter after several decades.