Posts by Gayle

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Fasten Your Seatbelts - The Crazy Has Started (Also, bring the Koolaid)

by berrygerry in

from facebook:just saw my jw mother after not seeing her for more than 2 years.

when i do see her, it is brief, she never asks about my life, doesn't ask about my 4 children her grandchildren, doesn't ask about my grandchildren...her great grandchildren, she doesn't ask about my other 2 brothers that she is also alienated from, she doesn't ask about my brothers family.

she doesn't talk about the jw/org either.

Gayle

It's so sad for the elderly people now. They have no other way to re-interpret all these changes within the WT. They are so totally confused.

It's like they are in a very small village. They have only shopped at the one lone store for all their needs. They accepted as told long ago that the food there was the only 'good' food. Recently, they have been informed by this market that the supposed fresh foods is going down to 12.5% (mags from 48 to 6) 'soon.' There are some canned goods (or some penny candies) yet but the items are approaching their 'expiration' date.

They can't figure out where else they can go. So, they are stuck with depression or panic. SAD ("stuck" and "depressed."

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Exjw activists protesting inside a Kingdom Hall today!

by Crazyguy in

spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.

several people speak out.

if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.

Gayle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvNhwTtw6GQ

Are the GB responding about this "flash mob" event of apostates!. Trying to "nip it in the bud?" The GB are too late!!

(About 6 min. in)

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Exjw activists protesting inside a Kingdom Hall today!

by Crazyguy in

spoonfed nomore, has uploaded a video on his youtube site, of exjw activists protesting inside a kingdom hall during this sunday meeting.

several people speak out.

if some one can put a link on here that would be awesome, i can’t figure out how to do it with an i phone.

Gayle

Just concerned about the legal "Right to Peaceful Assembly."

I know to peacefully protesting 'outside' the property would be fine. However, going 'inside' a KH to protest may not be legal. ?

(I do chuckle how Zeb remains so calm and unemotional and thankful and sweet sounding, even all the way out the door as he is escorted. (?) His manner seems to confuse the elders.

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What can the leadership at Watchtower do to turn things around?

by UnshackleTheChains in

let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.

they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.

they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).

Gayle

To stop the shunning, is very critical to JWdom. Shunning keeps the cult in control, strong.

Shedding shunning, even gradually, would allow for the 'personal conscience' to develop. Then, one's start developing their own guidelines. They will get more comfortable to 'think,' to define what is really bad or not. Like whether they personally will socialize with their relative or friends that formerly would have been df'd. Then others will start thinking their conscience is clear to celebrate a birthday of a 1 yr old or not or an 80 year old family member. Then, Thanksgiving, which not truly of pagan origins, etc. Higher educaion will become less threatening. Many members would gradually integrate into the real world. They will begin to trust themselves that they won't be getting evil (as the WT threatens).

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Hellaby UK circuit A$$emb£y this Sunday

by punkofnice in

my spies tell me that the attendance for hellaby this last sunday was only 600.. that's all i know.

i imagine some on here have perhaps some more insights into why.

however, it seems rather low, don't you think?.

Gayle

wow, low attendance, how much seating capacity, one commenter on a googled site indicated 1200 attenders possible at one time,, how many baptized, with 600 attenders, the odds are about 1/2 a person got baptized.

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"Deficit" at JW Assembly

by cookiemaster in

i've recently been at an assembly here in romania and there was an announced they were running a 10,000 euro deficit and urging all attendees to donate more money besides the already 5k has was donated during that day.

i really don't understand these things.

it's their own assembly hall.

Gayle

Guess how many Assembly Halls there are worldwide?! 773

https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/StudioMonthly2017/pub-jwb_201710_1_VIDEO (32 min. in)

Big money makers for sure.

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so its discussions with people..

by zeb in

jw
friends

so the wt mag is all but gone just a few a year.

thus a big gap in the sunday program?

no more year books.

Gayle

Poor JW kids. It used to be that they would go door to door selling mags/books. Then later, they had to present and 'give' mags for free to householders. Now, they have to just strike a type of 'conversation' with householders?! How unnatural for kids. Basically, it's getting to be even more so that the wt org is doing nothing to help pubs. in the so-called ministry. They are on their own.

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Did anyone here ever meet Stephen Lett?

by The Real Edward Gentry in

jw
friends

what is he like in person?

he seems deranged.

do people get irritated at being spoken to like a 3 year old when they hear him speak?.

Gayle

He was my book study conductor at Bethel Heights Congregation within the Bethel building (107) in '69 while I was in 'primary' for 6 months, assigned to Grenwich Village book study group (assigned with 4 or 5 other new Bethelites,). He didn't have such facial expressions back then. Actually I was shocked to see how he is now in recent videos. He was pleasant, not arrogant, I think about 21 yrs old then & a partaker already. I chuckle now how It must have been a site for 6 young suited guys and me, 1 female, taking the subway and walking down Grenwich Village streets.

Long ago.

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10 Graphs that show that the Watchtower is in trouble in Mexico

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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friends

mexico is by far the country where the witnesses have had the most success in the entire world.

almost any statistic except the total amount of witnesses shows that mexico is where the witnesses have had the wildest success in the world.proportional to population, the witnesses in mexico are double, or nearly triple, what they are in the us or brazil.but there is "trouble in paradise".

if mexico falls, pretty much the whole watchtower falls.which is why it is so important to have jwfacts translated to spanish.i made an analysis and things are looking bad in mexico... if trends continue, mexico will become just like the 1st-world countries.here is the first graph:maximum publisher % increase:.

Gayle

Wondering: how is it working in reality when families dealing with disfellowshipped family members? I heard that the Latino mamas and grandmas aren't handling that issue - to cut off their children and grandchildren. Afterall, in that culture, a tight generational family for care of each other, and definitely, as they age, is a basic necessity.

I expect the same issue to hit gradually other countries, especially third-world and cultures?

I see even in the U.S. there are many aging, (& widowed) JWs women, somehow work around the DF issue of their grown children, as they have claim that they need their grown children to care for them, etc. They know from experience that the congregations don't or can't take care of them.

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X/LDS vs X/JW!!!Who is more twisted and bitter.

by joe134cd in

since leaving the jws i have become fascinated by the lds church, because of the similarities both organisations have.

in reading x-mo forums i get the impression that they tend to be not as bitter and as twisted as xjw.

this is surprising as i think the lds is a bigger con than the jws.

Gayle

how many hours a week of meetings do the lds kids have to sit thru that are not age appropriate? how much unnatural work do they have to do, like jws kids having to go door to door, lds kids are big time into organized sports, birthdays, holidays. most lds kids encouraged to go to college. most lds don't completely shun their kids, if their kids aren't active. "Jack" Mormons are accepted.