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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

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  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  owenfieldreams

  Whether or not the globe warms at times is not really the issue here. Everyone with a brain acknowledges that as a possibility. It is whether or not human activity will make the earth uninhabitable and do irreparable damage to the earth that is the real argument.
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  Own up time...

  by Chalam in

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  well it looks like this site is a real melting pot, a broad spectrum of views and beliefs.

  for sure there are many disaffected ex jws.

  so in as few words as possible, preferably not more than one sentence, how would you describe yourself spiritually?

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  owenfieldreams

  Christian
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

  1. social
  2. current

  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  owenfieldreams

  Good points, Coffee_Black. The 'greens' that promote the whole global warming hoax are themselves nothing but a cult, in that they are not open to debating it in the arena of ideas and think that anybody that questions its legitimacy is a heretic.
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  Will the WTS start taking a hardline towards all the ''faders'' in the org?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  '' faders'' are a thorn on the sides of the wts.

  they miss meetings,don't contribute any money,don't go out in service,and can contribute towards the ''spiritual sickness'' of the local congregations.. will there come a point where they will ask each and every ''fader'' if they wish to remain in or out of the congregation?

  can they come up with scriptures to warn the congregation that you are a ''fader'' and are be marked?

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  I think they already have, if you read between the lines in some of the km and wt articles that have been written in recent times about association and meeting attendance. Also, with the move to limit access to wt study articles to active congregation members only by putting them in a separate magazine that is not distributed to the public, I think the ptb are trying to send a message to faders--"Get back to being active in the org, or we're cutting you off." Also, look for more hot rhetoric to come from the travelling men in upcoming assemblies/d.c.'s on the subject and more scare tactics. This organization, especially in the US, is bleeding active members just about everywhere and most of them are just people that would be classified as 'faders', and not ones that have been put out by df'ing.
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  Climate Change. Yes the science is settled.

  by mavie in

  1. social
  2. current

  the science is settled.

  special interests do not want you to think that it is.

  "in a candid memo about political strategy for republican leaders, pollster frank luntz expressed concern that voters might punish candidates who supported more pollution, but he offered advice on the key tactic for defusing the issue: "should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

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  owenfieldreams

  If global warming is really as bad as the liberals suggest, then there is nothing we can do to prevent the consequences of it and we are past the point of no return, so no matter what human activity takes place the earth is doomed! Funny, though, how many of the same people in the mid '70's were predicting a " freeze" and the planet entering another "ice age".....
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  BETHELITES - Whatever Became of?

  by Black Man in

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  i often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.

  while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).

  a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.

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  owenfieldreams

  Just a few of the names that I can recall from when I was in Brooklyn back in the late 80's(most of them worked in 360 furman): George Ford, Robert Bay, Jack Haring, Dennis Steele, Phil Gomes, Ralph Walls, Greg York, Dave Brewington, Ron Curzan, Russell and Karen Orf. Also remember Al Sjoman(sp?) and his wife, they sat at my table for a while in the Bossert.
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  Anyone else glad to see x-mas over?

  by eclipse in

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  i hated mine.. long story.. don't ask.. just glad it's over and glad stores are open again.

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  i always feel isolated and 'insecure' when civilization has ground to a halt because of a holiday.. i'm just ranting, need the stress relief.. hope your holidays were alot better than mine.. i am not looking for pity here, just needed to rant, thanks for listening.. .

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  Damn Straight I am!!!
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  Name a Book Title That Will NEVER Be Written...

  by owenfieldreams in

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  "the truth--why the core beliefs and doctrines of the wtbts will never change" by the gb of jehovah's witnesses.

  also, on the lighter side..... " how i invented the internet, why i will not debate global warming, and other musings of an ex vice president" by albert gore, jr.. and, finally, for you young ones.... "teenage chastity for dummies" by jamie lynn spears .

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  owenfieldreams

  "Family Values" by Rudolph Guiliani
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  BETHELITES - Whatever Became of?

  by Black Man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i often times wonder what happened to certain bethelites that i ran around with during my 1990s tenure there.

  while there are still a few left there, the greater majority of them aren't there for various reasons (marriage, disillusionment, left the borg, etc).

  a couple of cats i wonder about - there was one brother who i believe was from kansas, who got his fingers cut off in a printing press.

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  owenfieldreams

  I was in Brooklyn, '88-'89. Lived in the Towers. Karl Klein(then living) lived two doors down. Ended up in the elevator quite often with Ted "the hammer" Jaracz.
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  Incompetent zoo keepers...

  by Gregor in

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  sad story at the sf zoo.

  a beautiful siberian tiger escapes, kills one man and mauls two others.

  then is shot and killed by police.

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  owenfieldreams

  It's Bush's Fault!!!!!!!!!!