Posts by ElijahTheThird

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Is the kiling of people in war justifiable to you?

by sleepy in

how do you feel about the killing of people in war ?especially those who do not share you ideals and there fore may encroach on your rights if they had authority over you?.

most of us having been witnesses would have justified opposers of god dying at armageddon because we believed they if left alive would ruin life for everyone else.. so if a political party or another nation gained power other you country that acted contrary to your beliefs to such a degree you though they would ruin or life or life style would you kill them in war?

ElijahTheThird

YES!

Unfortunately there are now laws that protect the bad people from getting their just due.

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Who is babylon the great?

by 607BCisAbigLIE in

there is a site which anyone should visit it can be very interesting.. in that site you'll find information on history related to the book of revelation.

you'll notice that there is an interpretation that much suits to the people of the early christian times, than to the people of our time.

the logic is that when john wrote the apocalypse book, it had to be understood by the people of his time, with terms and symbolics that the early christians and others (like historians) would understand.

ElijahTheThird

hmmmmm could it be all the religionists that keep preaching their fairy tales?

God's Kingdom is a government, NOT a religion.

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Religion

by Rev BII in

is jesus = god almighty jehovah?.

which solution is the right one;.

1. jehovah is trinity and has millions of sons of god, angels.. 1. jehovah is the almighty father, a being with a one personality, he has a son, logos who became jesus, the masterconstructer in which all was created (naturally all but the trinity or the two beings; master and servant through who all was made), the first-begotten (or borned as the greek allows too..), the servant saviour and the beginning of the creation (or the first created as the greek allows too..) and has millions of sons of god, angels.. the trinity has often been up to debate.

ElijahTheThird

larc;
To those that are blinded to understanding I can comprehend their not being able to see "the signs of the times". This poses no problems for those that can though. *grins*

Rev;
As the term "christian" was coined as a derogitive name for those "So called Anointed Ones of God". or "Those so-called apointed ones of God." As many have received this calling to be Saints it would seem logical that the remaining ones of "the seed" would be beset upon by "those against God's Apointed Ones". hmmmm?

As for the trinity discussion? NOT even interested in that old rehash of others beliefs. *laffs*

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Do only a certain number of people find salvation?

by rptrchic in

i'm curious to know whether the jws believe as the mormons do that only a certain number of people get to go to heaven or find salvation.

thanks for your response.

ElijahTheThird

If memory serves me right, there are three end times scenerios;
1. One third will be brought through the fire (2+ billion)
2. One tenth left remaining in the land. (600 million)
3. Total and complete death of every living thing on the planet.

The last one is Mal. 4:6 (read a few different translations.)

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Antichrist: The archangel Michael

by illuminati in

a long time ago, the watchtower used to teach that the archangel michael is the antichrist.

does anyone here know in which watchtower edition they printed this information before changing michael to jesus christ?.

thanx a mil!.

ElijahTheThird

As I dont have the JW CD, I can't discover that myself either. But I do know what antichrist is all about. It is amazing all the crap that can be dreamed up and the tales that get started over UNTRANSLATED words that are just transposed into your language.

anti = ?
christos = ?

Now translate those words into ENGLISH and you will see what it really means.

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Religion

by Rev BII in

is jesus = god almighty jehovah?.

which solution is the right one;.

1. jehovah is trinity and has millions of sons of god, angels.. 1. jehovah is the almighty father, a being with a one personality, he has a son, logos who became jesus, the masterconstructer in which all was created (naturally all but the trinity or the two beings; master and servant through who all was made), the first-begotten (or borned as the greek allows too..), the servant saviour and the beginning of the creation (or the first created as the greek allows too..) and has millions of sons of god, angels.. the trinity has often been up to debate.

ElijahTheThird

Do you get paid by the word, or is that just your way of sorting it all out?
anti = against, or oposed to.
christos = apointed (of God) or Anointed.
antichrist, simply stated, are all those that stand in oposition to the Anointed of God.

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Julie, see the OTHER possibility

by Derrick in

in another topic, julie stated a possibly ironic outcome of our quest for everlasting life: "wouldn't it be funny if it turned out that we get one life, no immortality, and all these people wasted their whole lives fighting about who was right or wrong about the details of an immortality that doesn't exist?".

in a universe where all things are possible, consider another possible outcome: wouldn't it be funny if it turned out that a higher intelligence exists, is planning an infinite future of good times for humanity, to the awesome delight felt by all these people who spent their whole lives searching for the truth?.

julie, if you're out there, stop selling yourself short with negative "what if" scenarios.

ElijahTheThird

Then again, as there are many truthes that have come through the Anointed that were in the JW's. What if they were just as "deceived" as the "followers"? What happend to the insight that they were supposededly writing into the GB by letters? What if there really are Anointed that have this "insight"? Where are they now?

*BIG CHEESY GRINS*

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Is it ONLY the JW's that knew of the Anointed?

by ElijahTheThird in

what are your understandings or knowledge about this?

are the jw's the only ones that were given "insight" as to who the saints are?.

for a jw info board it is interesting that there is so very little on this subject of the anointed here.

ElijahTheThird

What are your understandings or knowledge about this? Are the JW's the only ones that were given "insight" as to who the Saints are?

For a JW info board it is interesting that there is so very little on this subject of the Anointed here.

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Who goes to heaven?

by Rev BII in

the resurrection of life is the one the saints get in rev 20:6. the rest get a resurrection of judgment, not life, and on earth.

>the rest get a resurrection of judgment, not life, and on earth.

ElijahTheThird

It seems very clear, that those that go to the "heavens" must go for a purpose dosn't it? Chosen for certain qualities of integrity and charector of the "heart" for what they will do. As many have figured out, the "harvest" of Anointed is much larger than just the "first fruits". There are many with this calling both in and out of the JW's. Yet they are the ones that really started up the gathering of the Saints.

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Jw's only ones to survive???

by dungbeetle in

in response to hawkaw's hilarious post:.

* http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16104&site=3.

here are some recent quotes from jw literature... wt 3/1/99.

ElijahTheThird

Hello?
Quoted "I think you could also blaim the individual 'sheepminded' JW member for not revolting against this teaching. Must be hard for the insightfull among them to preach this doctrine. I have talked to several of them, they normally keep quite.

Many years ago I talked to one of the Anointed and "demanded" to speak with him even though I was a df. I asked why the WT didn't publish what I knew by insight. We then discussed some points and he agreed (from his heart) that I was correct in my understandings, BUT untill the GB and Society changed it's views there was nothing he could do! That was the last contact with JW's except for a visit from "Doc" the then Prez. Franz doctor.

Most with "insight" have left I think and there apears to be no new insight with in the borg. Yet I as well as others I see have this insight and are progressing ans in very much agreement. What do you make of that?