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  Would you die for what you believe?

  by avidbiblereader in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with many strong feelings or beliefs either way for christianity, atheism, jw would you be willing to die for your beliefs, or are they just feelings that never come from the heart?

  if faced with death for your beliefs, would you?.

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  deputy dog, today I honestly can say that I do not know, maybe to help others to see the truth about the truth (but that is a strong feeling due to what is going on inside me after finding out I allowed myself to be deceived for a good portion of my life), then to enjoy the time with my children, for my work. In general I am trying to figure out what I want to do with the rest of my life.

  Whatever I think and believe now, may be proven wrong in the future. The only certainty I have is that there are no certainties (which is in itself a contradiction ;-) ), therefore I doubt that there is any belief that is worth giving up one's life for.
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  Would you die for what you believe?

  by avidbiblereader in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with many strong feelings or beliefs either way for christianity, atheism, jw would you be willing to die for your beliefs, or are they just feelings that never come from the heart?

  if faced with death for your beliefs, would you?.

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  thanks nvr.

  I am reading a book all JW (and not only them) should read. why we believe what we believe by Andrew Newberg. So far a fascinating mind expander.
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  How many Christians were there in the 1st century?

  by yaddayadda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just been reading former long-time brooklyn bethelite tom cabeen's very encouraging article entitled "where is the body of christ?".

  (can be found at http://divinetruth.homestead.com/bodyofchrist.pdf) .

  in his article, tom says: "when john received the revelation around the end of the first century, there were hundreds of thousands of christians, even by conservative estimates.

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  Thanks Doug
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  Blood Transfusion "matter of choice" for JWs

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.utvlive.com/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=80831&pt=n.

  richard parker, a member of the jehovah`s witnesses, says that the refusal of transfusions is one of their fundamental beliefs.

  based on what is written in the bible.it is not forbidden by their faith but is a matter of choice for the individual, he said.. who is richard parker - branch committee?

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  but is a matter of choice for the individual

  I guess in the sense that the Bible WT trained conscience leads a JW to refuse them. If he does not he no longer is a JW.
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  Would you die for what you believe?

  by avidbiblereader in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with many strong feelings or beliefs either way for christianity, atheism, jw would you be willing to die for your beliefs, or are they just feelings that never come from the heart?

  if faced with death for your beliefs, would you?.

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  jeanV

  nope.. after finding out the watchtower was seriously flawed after believing it for a lifetime i dont put any value on belief anymore.

  Considering that beliefs are only mind generated abstracts and concepts, it seems foolish to die for them.

  you both well expressed my current thought.

  I'd like to add that given the long time it has taken many of us to wake up, my conclusion is that it may often be harder to question one's beliefs rather than die for them.
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  Beyond Jehovah's Witnesses website - banner, discontinued?

  by needproof in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i clicked one of the banners at the top of the page to the beyond jw's website on aol, .

  it said : for philosophical reasons, i have discontinued this web site.

  i recommend no religion.

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  too bad, it was a great website. one of the first I ever looked at. plenty of info, to the point and with lots of links.
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  How many Christians were there in the 1st century?

  by yaddayadda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just been reading former long-time brooklyn bethelite tom cabeen's very encouraging article entitled "where is the body of christ?".

  (can be found at http://divinetruth.homestead.com/bodyofchrist.pdf) .

  in his article, tom says: "when john received the revelation around the end of the first century, there were hundreds of thousands of christians, even by conservative estimates.

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  very interesting question. I have been trying for some time to get information on 1st century Christians but have not yet found a reliable source apart from the Bible (that does not give many details anyway).

  If someone knows of books worhtwhile being checked, please let me know.
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  Chronolgy Chart in "Life" book.

  by hamsterbait in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the new wt cd has removed the book "life everlasting in the freedom of the sons of god.".

  can anybody put up a scan of the chronological chart ( around page 36 or so) that states definitely:.

  "2975: end of christs milliennial reign.".

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  jeanV

  so I'll better keep my older CD's of the WTL
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  Specific banned shows, songs, etc...?

  by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know the society tells people not to listen to rock n roll cause its from teh satan, not to watch r rated movies because they're "worldly", etc.

  but i was wondering if folks had any specific instances where one song, one show, one movie, or whatever was singled out as being particularly 'evil', and banned on an individual basis?

  i was never a jw, but was in the worldwide church of god...the two are rather similar, i've seen many (and made quite a few myself) comparisons on the board; and i can remember as a child that every once in a while certain things would get brought up as being more evil and worldly than others.. examples of specific bans:.

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  I think they went to a roy Orbison concert, and if memory serves me correctly, (according to my parents story), he made an accouncement that all JW's were to leave.

  we should open a thread about urban legends of JW's as I heard exactly the same story about Zucchero that asked that all JW's had to leave the concert (otherwise the demons would not help him...).

  AC / DC in my days was supposed to mean Anti Christ / Death to Christ....
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  Name ONE half-truth that the Society has EXPLICITLY elaborated on

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all you apostates out there!.

  find a half-truth that the watchtower has mentioned in detail, whether at meetings, assemblies or conventions or in the botchtower.

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  a lot of the quotes for example thiele, priestley, Campbell & Freedmann and many more. A very blatant one, Grayson:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/111407/1.ashx