Paralipomenon

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  Going door to door to recruit members doesn't work

  by JH in

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  2. beliefs

  when you look at all the hours they do going door to door world wide and then you look at how many hours preaching it takes to bring just 1 person to their organization, it's not efficient.. my mom goes to a baptist church now, and i was surprised to know that 500 go to that meeting on sundays and they don't go door to door to go get these people.. there might be 80 witnesses at my hall and going door to door doesn't make much of a difference.

  maybe it's even counter productive since people don't like being pested at home..

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  While not very efficient it does work as there are new people joining to replace the the droves leaving.
  
  It's pretty much like religious spam. If you preach to thousands of people a day, eventually there will be one person called on that is at an emotional low or vulnerable. That's where it works. If they didn't go door to door, they would eventually recede, stagnate and splinter off into small groups when the WTS could no longer afford to be profitable.
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  Question for the ladies.

  by BrentR in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i would be interested to hear from the ladies about women that go after married men.

  why do some seek them out over single guys?

  i remember years ago reading an article about them but i do not remember much.

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  Paralipomenon

  I have a question for the ladies here. I get hit on fairly often. Not overt "come hither and make sweet love to me" sort of hit on, but light flirting. To be perfectly honest I can't see it, I'm committed to my wife and only twice did I feel that someone was trying to cross that line and it was very uncomfortable. She's usually the one that will point it out to me.
  
  I talk to my wife about it, who usually says "I trust you just fine, I just don't trust THEM"
  
  To me that is completely contradictory. If she really trusted me, there would be no chance for anything to happen so I would think she would be delighted that these girls are going to get nowhere. If it's just plain jealousy that's fine, but I get the feeling that she doesn't trust me but doesn't want to say it.
  
  Any of the resident XX chromosomes here care to shed some light on this comment?
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  why would she need my ssn?

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok, well, mom called.. she left a message.

  my cphone got saturated with chocolate milk and the screen is no longer working, and the battery is not charging right.

  (blame it on the kids) so i didn't know she had called.

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  Paralipomenon

  My mother too called asking for my SSN to enable her to extra reimbursement from the government for retirement funds. Don't suspect anything sinister unless you consider your mother to be untrustworthy.
  
  If she has a legitimate reason, I'm sure she'd be forthcoming with it.
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  World of Warcraft

  by Paralipomenon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, geek confession here.

  today the expansion pack comes out for this game which oddly has, at last tally, about eight million subscribers.

  (more than the jw's) .

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  Paralipomenon

  Okay, geek confession here. Today the expansion pack comes out for this game which oddly has, at last tally, about eight million subscribers. (More than the JW's)
  
  Anyone else play this game?
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  sorry just fuming right now

  by betteroffdead in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey everyone.

  new to the forum but have been reading earnestly many great topics, major respect to everyone who posts.

  anyways i'm an "active dub"(i use that term loosely never baptised and it pisses them off, haha) born and raised in it, i've had alot of the questions asked on here myself.

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  Paralipomenon

  One thing touted here is that elders really don't have any power. They require 2 witnesses and then a judicial committee and the matter must be handled by the congregation the offender is assigned to.
  
  As much elder bashing that goes on here, remember that elders are just ordinary people like you. Most don't really get excited by tracking down someone they don't know to enforce bible principles. Since there's sex involved, some of the older ones might want to talk to her to get their kicks, but honestly I can't see it happening.
  
  She's not going to meetings so she's most likely inactive. They have the information your girlfriend forwarded them so if they get motivated to clean off their records they might try talking to her. But no, they really have no obligation to do anything.
  
  If this means alot to you, you could write to your CO and say that you are being stumbled by the apparent lack of action on this sister's views. But if you are not already "spiritually strong" they will most likely chalk it up to you wanting revenge and not be part of it.
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  Green Urban Legend

  by james_woods in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the thread on the wt going into the red, and the remark on "cheap paperback bibles" made me think of the old green nwt.. there was a lot of buzz back then about why it was green.

  i heard these from various cos -.

  a) it was green to prove that it was not from christendom.

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  Do current bibles still have a marker for the Garden of Eden in the map section?
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  Has technology helped your marriage

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has technology helped your marriage, for instant instead of the newspaper stuck between you and the wife at breakfast, it is now the computer thus allowing "cross" communication between you both, and what about the television zappa who is in charge of that, obviously the man of the house, thus saving much time and effort for the poor wife who had to keep getting up to change channels.

  the dishwasher machine has now taken over in the kitchen, where once you would do this chore happily together???.

  what more !!

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  With TV being more and more commercialized I really see little worth watching.
  
  My wife and I actually picked up a online game together. I am quite aware of how nerdy that sounds so I rarely tell anyone about it. My wife on the other hand thinks it's great and ended up recruiting our neighbors to play as well who are immensely enjoying it.
  
  The way I see it, we actually get to play together, talk, work together. Much more interactive than sitting there in the same room watching TV.
  
  The only down point is my oldest son plays too and will occasionally tell his grandma (my mom, a devout JW) about his "character" and all his quests and weapons and how great it is. My mom is mostly in denial over my fading so I'm sure she just tunes it out.
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  Apostates do you still read Watchtower literature? And if so Why do you?

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was just wondering how many ex-jws still read wt literature and if so why.

  i have noticed alot of posters here know what the lastest wt or awake magazines are talking about and i was just wondering why do you bother to read that stuff since you left the wt?

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  Paralipomenon

  I'll have one in April when my mother does her quarterly literature dump.
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  An Update!

  by Bstndance in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you that have followed my soap-opera on this board.... quick re-cap.

  recently, my mom was threatened by the elders to stop associating with me or else.

  i guess she feared i was becoming an "apostate".

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  Paralipomenon

  yeah, that makes it harder. But I'd suggest to keep calling.
  
  In my mother's case, biology took over and she made a personal stand that her daughter is still a good person and she couldn't see a reason not to talk to her.
  
  Everyone is different, but my sister told me that she felt so bad that she cooperated with the shunning by respecting our mother's request not to talk for many years. I found it funny that eventually she had a choice.
  
  Guilt from the elders or society a few times a year.
  
  Or guilt for being a bad mother 1-2 times a week.
  
  If it works for you and your mom, bonus. If not, you're no worse off.
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  Convention Hotels

  by Billzfan23 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have heard an experience a thousand times (in conversation as well as from the platform) of a person who had a talk on the district convention program that did not stay at a hotel on the recommended lodging list.

  this person was spotted by a fellow conventioner and was asked why he was staying at a hotel that was not on the list and happened to be just across the street from the convention location.

  his reply was that he has a part on the convention and it would be more convenient for him to stay there than use one of the approved hotels.

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  Paralipomenon

  I remember the tickets you could buy for food.
  
  Waaay back when they had home cooked meals and an entire food department for soup, hotdogs and the sort. Each congregation was responsible for making sweets and sandwiches that were wrapped up and sold.
  
  My dad scoffed and said if we wanted food, we'd make our own. The food department was eventually done away with, not because of legal liability naturally, but because the brothers were missing so much spiritual food from the prep work.
  
  Such a loving arrangement.
  
  (Oh, and you couldn't turn the tickets back in for cash at the end of the assembly)