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  cult personality type?

  by Mysterious in

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  another thing that has been intriguing me lately is the idea that cults can help sway people towards a certain personality type more towards a judging personality for example, or becoming more feeling rather than thinking.

  i know my meyers-briggs type changed from istj when i was a jw to intj after i left.

  i was curious if anyone else was aware of a similar shift in their actual measurable personality traits..maybe putting on the new personality is literal?

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  I don't know if I agree. I'm not sure who I ever was. as I was born into this, and what I would have been in the abscence of the brainwashing and abuse. Becca can you tell me by reading some of my posts which one you think I am. I didn't even know of these types. Another question... If you are evil at your core are you saying that this will never change no matter what you do?

  Tyrone it's important to point out that, according to the MBTI, there are sixteen recognized grids of personality, some combination or other using the letters E or I, N or S, F or P, and F or J.

  There is a separate consideration to all this, which might be what you are alluding to: Each individual, besides having their own MBTI designation, will also fall somewhere along a broad continuum: That which goes between HEALTHY vs. UNHEALTHY. Each personality will manifest their signs of health (or UNhealth) in a fairly predictable manner, according to their type, but the DEGREE to which they do so will depend on where they fall on this second scale.

  This is where personality disorders come in. I actually plan to get a psych degree studying this very thing. I find it very fascinating to look at human nature in all its wondrous and even convoluted forms.
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  cult personality type?

  by Mysterious in

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  another thing that has been intriguing me lately is the idea that cults can help sway people towards a certain personality type more towards a judging personality for example, or becoming more feeling rather than thinking.

  i know my meyers-briggs type changed from istj when i was a jw to intj after i left.

  i was curious if anyone else was aware of a similar shift in their actual measurable personality traits..maybe putting on the new personality is literal?

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  Mysterious------------ It's not uncommon for people to experience personality fluctuations throughout a lifetime, cult influence or no. [Life experiences DO have influence.] Also, those four MBTI letter designations are not absolutes. Every letter is only to some degree, more or less, dominant compared to its alternative.

  For instance, a person may be strongly extroverted (I) so that letter never seems to fluctuate from test to test, time period to time period. But that same person may be fairly equally divided in preference between intuitive (N) and sensing (S) as a mode of evaluating the world around them. When that's the case, one test may show up as (S) and a different test/ time period may see a result of (T).

  For me, I'm consistently NF, but sometimes can flip-flop behaviorally on the E vs. I or J vs. P characteristics--usually because circumstances have warranted adjusting my perspective on things. Having disabilities that gradually changed my life--turned it upside--has caused me to act fairly regularly as an INFP more and more than ever before. However, anytime I've taken a more thorough comprehensive test, it has come out as an ENFJ. That's kind of my 'default' setting, though I am adaptable to other modes of operating as well.

  I'd be curious to know how comprehensive those tests you took were and if your 'default' would actually be with the N or the T. It's a good question you raise.
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  So Smart you become an idiot.

  by Sparkplug in

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  have you ever known people that are quite genius?

  they amaze you with the intelligence they have and yet in everyday life they just do not have the brainpower that god gave a goose.

  i married two of these type of people and i always had to wonder how things like the universe, god, science and quantum physics can be spoken with ease...and yet the simple things absolutely escape them.

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  Sparkplug------- On one of those sites, it puts ENFJ and INFP together as natural partners (as in romantic partners, but could also be friendship). They compliment in the right ways and are similar in the right ways. I'm gaining some experience into the speedreading of the types, too [though in person, not on this thread].
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  So Smart you become an idiot.

  by Sparkplug in

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  have you ever known people that are quite genius?

  they amaze you with the intelligence they have and yet in everyday life they just do not have the brainpower that god gave a goose.

  i married two of these type of people and i always had to wonder how things like the universe, god, science and quantum physics can be spoken with ease...and yet the simple things absolutely escape them.

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  Once you get a feel for the 16 types you automatically type everyone you meet. It helps in dealing with different kinds of people and understanding where they are coming from.

  There's a specific book geared to teach this. It's called Speedreading the...something something types. It's featured on one of the sites I listed earlier on this thread.
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  So Smart you become an idiot.

  by Sparkplug in

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  have you ever known people that are quite genius?

  they amaze you with the intelligence they have and yet in everyday life they just do not have the brainpower that god gave a goose.

  i married two of these type of people and i always had to wonder how things like the universe, god, science and quantum physics can be spoken with ease...and yet the simple things absolutely escape them.

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  JexW: That's cool! I've found a lot of NF's on here. I think that's why it's so warm and fuzzy.

  Shhhhh.......don't tell JusticeOne......he might say this is where all the bleeding heart, hand-wringing liberalism on this board is coming from!
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  So Smart you become an idiot.

  by Sparkplug in

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  have you ever known people that are quite genius?

  they amaze you with the intelligence they have and yet in everyday life they just do not have the brainpower that god gave a goose.

  i married two of these type of people and i always had to wonder how things like the universe, god, science and quantum physics can be spoken with ease...and yet the simple things absolutely escape them.

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  From reading some of you posts, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you arr an ESFP. I think you ex's may have been NT's. I'm and ENFJ. When you go to Humanmetrics you'll know what I'm talking about. Let me know what you find out.

  becca1--------- I'm an ENFJ too. My favorites for MBTI are www.personalitypage.com and www.personalitypathways.com
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  Holocaust denial, do you think it's serious?

  by avishai in

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  or relatively harmless?

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  Avishai--------- So what brought on this question, anyway?
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  Nobody Noticed?

  by Outaservice in

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  after all this time, i finally went over 1000 posts.

  does a jedi master get paid any more than a newbie?.

  outaservice .

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  Yep--double.
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  Holocaust denial, do you think it's serious?

  by avishai in

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  or relatively harmless?

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  Do I think it's serious... Umm.... y-y-e-s-s-s!!!!

  How serious is a WTB&TS abuses denier?
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  for the ladies

  by sspo in

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  did all of you "sisters" when you were single and growing up in the congregation .

  always dream about marrying a bethelite or encouraged to marry one.

  since they were viewed as "gods".. i remember many years ago single sisters constantly took trips to bethel with the hope .

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  Married and wished for it...convinced these would have to be truly spiritual men who would never act the way my ex-husband did. A friend of mine's sister did...and he has turned out to be a VERY controlling/ abusive husband and father.