J-ex-W

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  Fresh take on the BLOOD issue--it's brief

  by J-ex-W in

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  meant to share this a long time ago...don't know if i ever did.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fvdgu82feq.

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  Meant to share this a long time ago...don't know if I ever did.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fVDGu82FeQ
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  If you could spend 1 year in perfect happiness but afterward would remember

  by new boy in

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  nothing of the experience would you do so?..................if not, why not?

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  Yes... because when we're truly happy, we tend to be positively, outwardly flowing with our dynamic energy.

  I'm certain there would be things done/ said/ accomplished by me during that year that others would remember--for their positive effect--even if I don't!
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  Disfellowshipping question

  by emilyblue in

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  my ex-boyfriend who i am trying not to see anymore was disfellowshipped last monday, but he sent in a letter of appeal because he felt two the the three elders who made the decision were biased against him because they knew his ex-wife and were automatically sympathetic to the woman's side.

  he's disfellowshipped for having relations with me, even after he was divorced (before that, his divorce was unscriptural.

  ) how soon does the appeal take place?

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  I can't help but feel guilty though, because as he told me, loose lips sink ships.

  Honey, this is one captain who deserves to go down with his ship!!!

  Let's look at this again: ...as W-H-O told you??? And why do you suppose he would tell you that.... His aim is to make YOU feel responsible for any wrongdoing HE does...to keep his unsavory activities undercover. Guys like this always need an 'accomplice'--the tacit or complicit partner who SAYS N - O - T - H - I - N - G because activities cannot remain hidden from ALL eyes ALL of the time....

  It's what lets him eke by...at the EXPENSE OF OTHERS (you included, even as he's telling you it's your job to be [overly] concerned about his welfare--to a degree which abolutley ISN'T!!!). What you feel is the manipulative/ guilt tactic he is employing...only one of the m-a-n-y weapons of mass destruction in every abuser's arsenal....

  I don't want him ostracized

  I know you don't, Honey...bless your heart. You're a caring person, very empathetic...and the right guy at the right time will treasure this trait in you. THIS GUY IS NOT HIM!!! I absolutely know how you feel on this one...I didn't want to 'abandon' my ex-husband, for much the same type of reasons, when I was contemplating leaving him--within the first month of moving across country to be with him...knowing he had really 'no one' before and would have 'no one' after (if I left him alone).

  I felt this guilt already...now imagine the guilt--and fear and concern on his behalf, for HIS welfare, mind you--that I felt on top of this when I contemplated turning him into the police forsexually [and otherwise] abusingme. Instead of being properly concerned and outraged on MY behalf ...I was concerned and overly solicitous for the consequences to him (as he had systematically groomed me to be--and as, really, I had been groomed as a child to feel toward the 'man' in my life: Dad. [not a sexual abuser, but definitely verbal and sometimes physical, but NEVER at fault! ]).

  and I don't know how he will handle it because he doesn't have a lot of friends, JW or otherwise.

  There is a reason for this, Honey...and it's HIS problem to fix............................NOT yours--no matter HOW much he would like to make you believe otherwise!! You deserve better than what he is able and willing to give.... He deserves everything he GETS in consequence for his OWN ACTIONS...........................

  F - A - R from this upcoming disfellowshiping action being 'your fault'...and from there being ANY need on your part to feel responsibility or guilt...honestly, I would say you would be completely WITHIN your RIGHTS to tell the elders about his treatment of you AND of his blame/ intended deliberate smoke-screen designed to "APPEAR" repentent..................................................

  emilyblue------I covered over ALL that I knew of my ex-husband's dealings...partly because my heart ached with pity at the thought of his receiving his own just consequences. Still haven't got totally past that yet, myself, so I understand.............but I AM getting closer to just exposing that man for all it's worth (though, I'm sure in his case, the consequences will be much less of a 'bang' and more of a 'fizzle-thud'---------and then lots of backlash upon ME, for being the EX-Jehovah's Witness, rather than on him for being the abuser/ rapist).

  In the case with your "prospective ex," it looks like at least SOME justice might actully prevail within the JW judicial system for a change....................................DON'T OBSTRUCT JUSTICE, emilyblue. That's what he's pressuring/ manipulating you to do-----------------------in courthouse terms, it's called 'witness intimidation.' Abusers are VERY GOOD at it!!

  DON'T FALL FOR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  HUGS,

  J-ex-W
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  Relative to the Population at large on a 1-10 how do you rate.....

  by new boy in

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  1.your physical attractiveness.. 2.your intelligence.. 3.your personality.. with 5 being average.. i don't think many will answer these tough questions.

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  666-------------so the anti-christ should be patently recognized as being 'average?'
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  Do you have difficulty accepting gifts, being happy, and showing emotion?

  by MsMcDucket in

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  i've got it bad.

  i'm trying to overcome not showing emotion, and learning how to accept gifts graciously.

  i've heard some saying using emoticons are silly; but it's like a major move on my part.

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  CONGRATS, MsMcD !!!!!!!

  I've sent you a PM.

  You absolutely must have a hard time accepting things---it took about five times of me posting this before it was finally accepted!!

  G-Nite, now. Granted, it's only keyboard--but the with the influence of my sleeping pill by now, I definitely shouldn't be handling ANY keys..............
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  Attorney EXJW SUES K-HALL for HER OWN RAPE

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  suit claims years of abuse by father vote and add comment.

  victorville daily press, ca - 8 minutes ago.

  there was no corroborative witness to the sexual abuse, so the crimes against children unit could not recommend to the district attorneys office to press .... suit claims years of abuse by fatherryan orr2007-04-28 00:02:00apple valley a former apple valley resident has filed a lawsuit alleging sexual abuse against the apple valley cheyenne kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses, which is named in the complaint as roe, and her biological father, a church minister.

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  have to be careful about exposing abusers like that - as they can turn and play victim very well

  TELL ME ABOUT IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Hortensia--------------- Sorry for what you've been through...................
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  Relative to the Population at large on a 1-10 how do you rate.....

  by new boy in

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  1.your physical attractiveness.. 2.your intelligence.. 3.your personality.. with 5 being average.. i don't think many will answer these tough questions.

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  Does memory count as part of intelligence?

  ...'Cause I keep having to go back and look to see what order they're in....
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  Attorney EXJW SUES K-HALL for HER OWN RAPE

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  suit claims years of abuse by father vote and add comment.

  victorville daily press, ca - 8 minutes ago.

  there was no corroborative witness to the sexual abuse, so the crimes against children unit could not recommend to the district attorneys office to press .... suit claims years of abuse by fatherryan orr2007-04-28 00:02:00apple valley a former apple valley resident has filed a lawsuit alleging sexual abuse against the apple valley cheyenne kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses, which is named in the complaint as roe, and her biological father, a church minister.

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  jex, my point is this:

  IF she went to the JW's for help and they turned her away, she has a case.

  If she DID NOT GO TO THE JW'S for help, then how does she have a case?

  Child abuse, sexual abuse, rape...Happens.

  I am All For holding the Organization responsible where they Are responsible.

  In this case, the question is, Are They Responsible?

  If this person, her father, has No Prior case of child abuse on his record in the Organization, in what way are they responsible for the abuse in this instance?

  Funny how almost everyone here is saying they hope she wins. I hope she wins also but first she has to

  Perhaps her aim is not so much to 'win'--knowing full well that, legally, requirements cannot be 'satisfied.' Perhaps she wants simply to bring EXPOSURE to the matter--to that #$(&^#* father of hers...and to the ($@^* Watchtower Society that turns its back so frequently while allowing these things to proliferate. Sometimes EXPOSURE is the only way to fight back...especially where actual legal justice can never be expected to prevail. The same would be true in the case of my ex-husband as well. I could never expect to successfully sue or convict...but I am sometimes so tempted to e-x-p-o-s-e him...!! Sometimes I seriously wonder why I don't...and whether this also makes me accomplice to any future acts he does....
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  Attorney EXJW SUES K-HALL for HER OWN RAPE

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  suit claims years of abuse by father vote and add comment.

  victorville daily press, ca - 8 minutes ago.

  there was no corroborative witness to the sexual abuse, so the crimes against children unit could not recommend to the district attorneys office to press .... suit claims years of abuse by fatherryan orr2007-04-28 00:02:00apple valley a former apple valley resident has filed a lawsuit alleging sexual abuse against the apple valley cheyenne kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses, which is named in the complaint as roe, and her biological father, a church minister.

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  Did She turn to the Church and they responded with the two witness rule?

  Think about it like this:

  A school teacher molests a child. The school teacher has no prior record.

  See...here's the thing. My ex-husband DID have a 'prior' record of a complaint against him about sexual abuse from his SISTER [fleshly sister]. It was nominally 'investigated' by her/ his active JW dad (former elder at the time, elder again now)--denied--then DROPPED.

  He went on to sexually abuse ME, his active, faithful JW wife for YEARS..........I DID talk to the elders about it.............nothing was done.....................no corroborating witnesses for HER story OR mine, even though the CONTENT is essentially same. (sexual abuse allegations)

  Two different sources of accusation/ allegation...but NOT for same INCIDENT....................................... He gets off scot-free. I used to think my case was the exception. Evidentally, this kind of thing happens in the WT Org. over and over again.

  Oh, and a year-and-a-half into our marriage, he confessed to ME of having molested a DIFFERENT sister of his--------NOT the one who came forward with accusations years earlier (and was dismissed as a pathological liar). Honestly, I'm disgusted enough about the whole thing that I'm getting close to wanting to just NAME NAMES.....

  I think anyone who has been sexually abused by a JW and had it swept under the rug should contact this reporter listed with the article. I was a JW WIFE sexually abused by my JW husband. It's not the children only who are victims............................................EVERYONE should speak up and lend their voice to hers!!!
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  What Expressions, Words or Beliefs Are Clearly JW?

  by minimus in

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  "in the truth" is one.

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  "disfellowshipping" is another.. believing in the "faithful & discreet slave" is another..

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  "out in service" (Wouldn't most people use "out OF service"?)