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I KNOW we're not perfect... we have made mistakes... MANY mistakes... but we have corrected them and many cases admitted them and moved forward... we have learned from our mistakes and are still learning from them... but we are a nation that has grown and evolved based on those experiences good and bad.

I do read my history.

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Even MORE Things Eating at MY Mind

by Francois in

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i like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires.

i believe the money i make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

guns do not make you a killer.

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Right on Francois...

I have thought a lot about many of the things you posted. But lately I've been thinking about this EXACT same thing:

I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go along with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.

Actually... I think that some people trying to be "politically correct" are being "politically correct racists".

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Couple of things eating my mind

by Nosferatu in

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first of all, my active mother told me that a couple of months ago, there was an announcement made from the stage about an update on how to deal with child abuse situations.

apparently now, jws are suppose to go to the police now.

anyone else hear about this?

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Hi Nosferatu,

my active mother told me that a couple of months ago, there was an announcement made from the stage about an update on how to deal with Child Abuse situations. Apparently now, JWs are suppose to go to the police now. Anyone else hear about this?

If we're talking about the same letter read to the congregations this was more than just a couple of months ago... and even though the letter sounded as if their position on child abuse is a strong one... when you read between the lines the letter clearly states that "in states where it is required BY LAW" to report ANY incident of child molestation the elders had to do so... WHAT ABOUT THE REST of the STATES?!

By the way, if I am not mistaken (and maybe someone here can correct me) there are ONLY 6 states that require BY LAW reporting such incidents to the authorities.

So for me... that letter means NOTHING... and like Guest77 said it's mostly for Damage Control.

Hope this helps

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POLL: Where would you start?

by truthseekers2 in

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my husband's parents are open to a discussion about our doubts as long as we do not offer them anything except information from the nwt and the watchtower publications.

we cannot quote or refer to anything outside of all this.

hubby and i have felt like we are on information overload.

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We cannot quote or refer to anything outside of all this.

That is like them telling you..."get me out of this dark dungeon but please don't use any flashlights or any light of any kind..."

The first thing I think you must do is show them how they can NOT trust EVERYTHING that the WTS publishes. After that is accomplished THEN I would take them to see other reliable sources like newspapers, books, etc...

I would sart by looking up info on http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/ (sorry beans... I knew you would post this anyway )

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Beware of the Warmonger

by JLOB in

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there are people that can only function in conflict.

they do thier best work when there is chaos.

some of these leaders accomplish great things for thier nations, some only bring despair.

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There has to be information that Bush has that we are not privy to.

OF COURSE!!... and we will eventually know... like in many other cases the U.S. has to plan and protect themselves BEFORE they can spill out EVERYTHING.

Do we think that just because we are citizens we are entitled to know everything?

Definitelly NOT... we are NOT entitled to know everything... there are MANY things that are a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY and they are kept from us (or the rest of the world for that matter) to protect us and for our best interest.

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Beware of the Warmonger

by JLOB in

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there are people that can only function in conflict.

they do thier best work when there is chaos.

some of these leaders accomplish great things for thier nations, some only bring despair.

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In short, you can see actual footage of weapons were being destroyed and the medical help the people of Iraq need.

Of course they will destroy SOME of the weapons... they NEED to give EVIDENCE to the world that in fact they DID destroyed them...

But what about the other (According to the U.N.) chemical and bioligical agents they possess and never reported as being destroyed?

Guest77 I think you're being way too naive in believing that the Iraqis will come clean.

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Beware of the Warmonger

by JLOB in

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there are people that can only function in conflict.

they do thier best work when there is chaos.

some of these leaders accomplish great things for thier nations, some only bring despair.

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Here we go again...

Another uninformed poster...

The US had it's chance to make a change of power in Iraq during the gulf war but decided not to

What a joke... we did what we had to do and the purpose of dessert storm WAS NOT to make a change of power in Iraq. It was to defent Kuwait. The U.N. did NOT let the U.S. and Allies go beyond the scope of the mission and the purpose of why we went to Iraq the first time.

What more evidence do you want?... have you been reading or watching the news lately?...

Oh right... we "warmongers" are waiting for Iraq to actually USE the Anthrax that they HAVE and don't want to tell were it is... and the VX and Nerve gas that they have and is not accounted for... and the long range missiles that they don't want to tell where they are against our allies or give some of those biological weapons to terrorists that will make find their way to the U.S. and create havoc... Saddam was capable of using those biological agents AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE... FELLOW IRAQIS.... it is STUPID to think he will not use it against other nations or even us through the hands of terrorists.

Besides... Apparently we're forgetting there that there IS a U.N. agreement that he ARROGANTLY VIOLATED... and something HAS to be done about it. What do you want the world community to do?... Just give him a slap in the hand and let his madness to continue?

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Not DF'd but shunned anyway :-(

by Sirona in

ok. i'm really quite upset.

i am not disfellowshipped or disassociated.

the people in the local congregation know very little about my life nowadays.

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Hi Sirona,

My situation is EXACTLY like yours... sill not DF'ed or DAd... but already everyone shuns me... even close relatives that used to come by the house frequently don't even call or come by.

I agree with you

Do they think this would make me want to return?

Definitelly not... that's just more evidence about the REAL reasons for shunning... it's not "love" or because it's "biblical"... it's all about CONTROL and that proves again that they are a cult.

Hang in there... I understand what you're going through.

Edited by - email on 3 February 2003 10:44:59