Posts by humbled

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Anyone here been Dfd for 'apostacy'?

by Julia Orwell in

just wanna know.

i'm doing the fade but i reckon my big mouth could get me dfd.

i know plenty who've been dfd for fornication/adultery, but never met one dfd for speaking the truth.

humbled

Yes.

It's on the board archived under "How I left Jehovah's Witnesses--Maeve Courteau"

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Pastor Rick Warren's son commits suicide

by StoneWall in

here's a link but there is already many newscast carrying the story.. .

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/06/17632420-pastor-rick-warrens-son-matthew-commits-suicide-church-says?lite.

edited to add: for any that don't know rick warren here's a quick copy and paste from that news article.

humbled

thanks JGnats, beautiful talk

I hurt for that family. How hard it is to have a child who suffers that way.

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Are you going to heaven?

by compound complex in

greetings:are you convinced (with all due humility, of course) of your future destination according to religious beliefs?

perhaps you'd simply like to journey through outer space, but return eventually to our beautiful planet, earth .

.

humbled

Hello, Coco,

Good to see you. This is Not-a-Captive returned as Humbled.

I'll follow Jesus' love wherever it went.

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What,s a dysfunctional family in your opinion???

by jam in

just recently a family i know well (non-jw) big problems.. i thought my family (my ex and my kids) and other jw family.

members were dysfunctional but no comparison to this family.. i have known families that became jw,s, their famliy were.

dysfunctional but in a strange way their family became strong.. my thought , if you have one child that goes amok that ,s not.

humbled

When I started getting myself and mykids into counseling I came to think this:

It may be that the main difference beyween two families having similar problems is one knows they are screwed up and are trying to do something about it--that's being functional.

The other family just pretends nothing is wrong or just scapegoats the ones that are acting out.But they don't try to get help. That's disfunctional.

It takes a while to comb the tangles out of a troubled family.

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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

http://www.jwactivists.org.

facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

humbled

Just donated--

Looking at logo designs, mission statements and the kind of reservations about the name--Maybe insert one word and change a lot yet not change a lot:

The Association of Anti-Slavery Watchtower Activists

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My friend from 40 Years ago

by Lady Lee in

jw
friends

when i was a young jw and all the other young jws were avoiding me because i was from "that family" i had one young girlfriend who didn't care.

we were both not well liked so we hung out together.

she was my maid of honor when i got married but we lost touch because soon after the wedding we moved to "where the need was great" to help set up another cong in our hall.

How Many Here Have Ever Smoked Pot or Tobacco?

by minimus in

jw
friends

am i the only one who has done neither?.

I smoked for @ 4 years when I was young. Smoked 35 years later around the time we buried my dad and didn't stop for a year and a half. I like roll-your-own smokes. I wish it were not bad for health. I would like one occassionally--but that is a slippery slope for me.

Pot --I tried it a few times back in the day but never got real interested in it. Lots of reasons.

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A personal message to you lurking Jehovah's Witnesses out there

by Terry in

while you were sitting in that uncomfortable folding chair the other night.... listening to something you've heard already a thousand times before.... do you know what was happening at the same time?.

somebody somewhere else was studying a real textbook.

somebody was cramming for a college exam.

humbled

Absolutely true, Terry. We were flogged so hard with twisted FDS doctrine that we often spend a lot of time flogging one another on the board with the broken bits of it later.

It is the truth that they take people in their relative innocence, spiritually speaking, and screw them over and hang them out to dry.

Maeve

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Do WT Bible NWT pick and choose word meanings to suit their agenda?

by *lost* in

can anyone offer thoughts on this.

any examples.

i just discovered this.. nwt v kjb isaaiah 14;12. kjv - uses lucifer.

humbled

I love this conversation.

I was racked over the coals for seeking the allowance to read a problematic chapter of the bible without the WT interpretation laid over the account. For conscience sake I refused to do it for myself and would no longer repeat their version to others. That drew the fire. I knew I had the scholarly grounds for it even as Bethel eventually, grudgingly allowed --but nevertheless they refused me the moral grounds to diverge from their version.

As I thought about the creepy way they dealt with me and the fear my local elders had of discussing the bible freely, I realized that faith cannot be gained or sustained by the parsing out of bible texts. But that goes farther afield than this thread....

Anyhow

Here's my vote for a super-rotten corruption of translation the NWT uses to it own selfish ends:

"This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you the only true God, and the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." NWT,

Virtually all other translations( including the DIAGLOTT that the WTS allowed us to read) translates it differently. From Benjamin Wilson's DIAGLOTT:

"And this is the aionian life, that they may know thee,the only true God, and him who thou didst send, Jesus Christ."

In my view the NWT gives John 17:3 the most egregious and self-serving distortion of Jesus' teachings. An utter betrayal of his way of knowing the Father. But how wonderfully it tied in --their version did--with the idea of "accurate knowledge"-epi-knosis that they always flogged us with.

Just think! If we studied with the WT publications, we would have the accurate knowledge of God that no one else had. The implication was powerfully tied to their campaign for us to always be "taking in of knowledge" for salvation via the agency of the FDS.

At John 5:38-40 Jesus refutes the NWT distortion of John 17:3:

"And his word(logos) you have not remaining in you; because you believe not him whom he sent. You search the scriptures(graphicos), because you think by them to obtain aionian life and they are those testifying of me; and yet you are not willing to come to me that you may obtain life."

Anyhow--that's my 2cent's worth.

maeve

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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

http://www.jwactivists.org.

facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

humbled

Wonderful!!

Cedars, I remember your comments on a thread @2 weeks back. We all were a-stew about how to stop the toxic shun. You were on the verge of this thing hatching out and couldn't say anything yet.

Now here it is.

Thank you all, Maeve