though he is a typical wt slave, we are like david and jonathan.. in my most intimate conversation with him, i asked him:.
how do you manage serving an organization built on inherent contradictions?.
he said: organization helps people to grow spiritual, like any other religious organizations do.
jgnat--
Isn't it a problem with even the most liberal of churches to declare that, in the end, you must acknowledge their even very modest creed?
The nature of a religion is it's structure. They do distinguish themselves according to a structured creed/belief.
Finding oneself in a church where you no longer believe, say, what others believe about the bible will get you in trouble or else ..silent in the church.
though he is a typical wt slave, we are like david and jonathan.. in my most intimate conversation with him, i asked him:.
how do you manage serving an organization built on inherent contradictions?.
he said: organization helps people to grow spiritual, like any other religious organizations do.
Religions think they are taking you on a guided tour of faith. You step on their "bus"at the church, it takes you all over the place to show you the wonders of God. But in the end it makes sure you are dropped off right where you got on in the first place: at their church door.
This guy is messed up. A true cynic.
so i grew up in new jersey in a very urban part of the state.
i literally only saw white folks if they were in a police car or if i went to the assembly.
the funny thing is at the assembly there was still a level of segregation as well although it was self-imposed.
It takes a village to raise a......racist. At the very least a silent village.
CAA- people of color and women often try to do the same thing about rotten, demeaning actions toward them, IMO. We try to rationalize it, keep the peace. And when we are young? OMG, we are really unequal to this crap.
I am glad you are saying something NOW. Silence is not golden in this case.
though he is a typical wt slave, we are like david and jonathan.. in my most intimate conversation with him, i asked him:.
how do you manage serving an organization built on inherent contradictions?.
he said: organization helps people to grow spiritual, like any other religious organizations do.
I can build my house on sand?
has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?
what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.
if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.
Cold Steel,
What of the LDS teaching that Jesus was a polygamist? March 1857 Orson Hyde gave a sermon that asserted that Jesus was a polygamist. His wives were Martha and a couple of Marys.
There are records of the past, even for the LDS church.
They are teaching whatever came into their heads--no different from the WBTS guys.
jw literature is racist as hell.
jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.
....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .
Come on---what's KING magazine?
jw literature is racist as hell.
jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.
....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .
BackseatDevil,seriously?
You are kidding, right?
jw literature is racist as hell.
jesus looks like an american folk singer, the governing body look like a corrupt version of an enron luncheon.. the jw's literally print different magazines for africa with african pictures, black people instead of white, to make it 'more appealing' to them.... just to be clear that means they think the opposite is true too!.
....and then there is the lack of black angels..... .
Reminds me of a story that certainly was told first in the times of U.S. slavery:
An elderly plantation owner wakes up in distress and being helped by his old black servant to dress, he tells Tom of the dream that troubled his sleep.
"...so I died and went to heaven. Alright, says I. But then I saw thatSt. Peter had made a terrible mistake-- everywhere I looked there were only pickaninnies and black folk everywhere cavorting around and singing, walking in and out of their shanties with watermelons in their hands and big grins on their faces-- He had put me in black heaven!!! I tell you, Tom, it was horrible, just horrible!"
Whilst his master shuddered, Tom said " That is terrible, yes, STRANGE. You see, Marse John,I had a dream last night most bad as that."
"And what was your dream, Tom?"
"Well, like you, I dreamed I died and went to heaven, 'n St. Peter messed me up, too. Cause there I was midst pearly gates 'n gold streets 'n all. Homes Grand and big with tall marble columns all bright n fine... "
"O, Tom, you were in White man's heaven!" exclaimed his master.
"Could be, could be. But there was nobody there at all."
i am pleased to announce that i get to retain my bottom intact for the foreseeable future.. .
milestone check-up just done.
i had a stage 3, 4t anal canal cancer for which i underwent chemo and radiation this past spring.
Thanks so very much, Snare and cofty. I hope you both have the best holiday ever.
Loz! No cancer, too? Wonderful!
Straight--scary indeed. and thought-provoking in a good way. It has changed my life, but not badly.
i am pleased to announce that i get to retain my bottom intact for the foreseeable future.. .
milestone check-up just done.
i had a stage 3, 4t anal canal cancer for which i underwent chemo and radiation this past spring.
Hello cofty,
I did not have colo-rectal cancer. It was anal canal cancer--very different as it is a squamous cell cancer that developes within only the first inch-and-a-half of the bung. There is a tissue change after that. Slower growing tumors above that point. I didn't know these fine points of gut cancer. This is essentially a cancer of the skin tissue.
I thought a clear colonoscopy provided me with a three year breathing-room for cancer--Not so with fast-growing squamous cell cancers I learned.
The good news for that cancer? It is mightily affected by radiation and an "old school" chemo drug. Years ago, I understand,when doctors didn't discriminate between the cancers of the rectum and the anal canal the chemo/radiation treatments were given to both classes of tumors to shrink them as much as possible for the least amount of cutting for ultimate removal.What was discovered was that those of the anus often disappeared--entirely.
Sometimes surgery is neccesary. I heard that a woman with anal canal in my same stage ended up with a colostomy in spite of treatment.
I saw the picture of my tumor at my diagnosis. It was growing in the muscle wall between my vagina and anus. A horror show for sure.
It looks hopeful for me. If nothing else, I am blissfully ignorant of any future doom. Aside from the obvious--death.
But I am hopefully going to die in some other more lovely way.
And how are you?
