Posts by humbled

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Head covering for women--how did you feel about this? Men? Women?

by humbled in

jw
friends

thinking about how this felt awkward to some of us women when a bible student noticed something was "up" if a baptised brother sat in on a study.

had to reference 1 cor.

11:1-16.. i wonder if this irked any while you were still in?.

humbled

Blondie!!!!! I love it! Beautifully, eloquently,silently true.

Now, these years after, I wish I could re-do my final meeting with the elders. I would drape that thing over my head and pray for deliverance....

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Head covering for women--how did you feel about this? Men? Women?

by humbled in

jw
friends

thinking about how this felt awkward to some of us women when a bible student noticed something was "up" if a baptised brother sat in on a study.

had to reference 1 cor.

11:1-16.. i wonder if this irked any while you were still in?.

humbled

Legacy,

To the point of rules and laws--what is the difference between one and the other?

There are natural consequences for any action we take, we know this. But having laws to support arbitrary rules is non-sense.

Of all the non-sense rules in the bible the head-covering one is the most ancient and detestable because it pervades the intimate lives of couples all over the world.

Think about it, Paul retells the Genesis story. He says God made a rule that Adam consciously broke but that Eve unconsciously initiated the breach. This is a strange distinction--even an insulting one: Both paid with their lives, didn't they? Even in imperfect human law there are varying degrees of culpability and therefore of punishment even for murder. The screwed up penalty (subjection/inferiority to man) for women is the most unjust in the history of the earth.

This stupidity is wrapped up/embedded in these scriptures:

***1 Tim. 2:14--"Also Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and came to be in transgression."

***Romans 5:12, 18--"...just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin..." " So then as through one trespass the result to men of all sorts was condemnation, likewise also through one act of justification...."

Sort it OUT! The bible writers have woman bear a primary guilt yet not the ultimate agent of the FALL. Adam is paired with Jesus Christ--while Eve is painted a weak-minded hussy.

And yet woman, despite the all the man-made rules laid hard on her back, must answer for her own salvation or be damned.

Twisted.

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My Window Cleaner

by happy@last in

my window cleaner is a jw and as i am always working when he comes to my house i haven't seen him or spoken to him in years.

the other day i was in my local town and went into a cafe for some lunch.

who is sitting there but my window cleaner and his wife.

humbled

(Sorry foe double posts)

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My Window Cleaner

by happy@last in

my window cleaner is a jw and as i am always working when he comes to my house i haven't seen him or spoken to him in years.

the other day i was in my local town and went into a cafe for some lunch.

who is sitting there but my window cleaner and his wife.

humbled

I would ask him how he squares his scruples--

If you (happy@last) are so vile that he will not talk to you, how is it he does business with you?

I knew an elder who prided himself on refusing to do work for a church that tried to hire his plumbing services. We weren't even to go to the Salvation Army thrift store as it supported false religion.

So he finds no conflict in taking payment from a person so reprehensible that he will not talk to you? Just how does he figure this?

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Not willing to cooperate

by happy@last in

just thought i would let you know there appears to still be no change when it comes to assisting the police here in the uk.

i am in the process of pressing charges against my abuser who was and is again a jw.

during my interviews with the police i did not mention jws as it was not relevant to the case, however during one if his interviews he stated that he had been 'punished' by the jws by being disfellowshipped, and now he was a jw again he had 'paid his dues'!.

humbled

I am glad you are bringing this man to account for hurting you. You have to be a strong person to do this. It uncovers the dark thinking of the JWs that they don't understand how wrong their actions are to hide their crimes from the public.

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Germans Play Monopoly

by cofty in

if karl marx, sigmund freud, and friedrich nietzsche had a game of monopoly....

humbled

Funny, cofty--

Anyone, for a dark reflection on the Epic Thread (My Old Pastor Tried to Re-convert Me Yesterday...), click on the the previous feature to the above link: "the Wrath of the Sea"

Maeve

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Head covering for women--how did you feel about this? Men? Women?

by humbled in

jw
friends

thinking about how this felt awkward to some of us women when a bible student noticed something was "up" if a baptised brother sat in on a study.

had to reference 1 cor.

11:1-16.. i wonder if this irked any while you were still in?.

humbled

How much hair do we women need to be "covered", Legacy? Strippers wear pasties and a g-string. There's alot of latitude to the subject of what-covers-what.

I have always wondered why the scripture at 1 Cor. 11:16 is not understood to allow that there should not be any hard-and-fast rule to head covering.

In 1 Cor. 7 Paul in four different places says whether or not what he says is a command (v. 6) or whether the idea is from him not the LORD (v. 12), his opinion (v. 25, 40) .

So why should we take anything Paul says as "gospel" if we choose to believe the bible at all?

Paul himself says so often that he is not speaking for "the Lord"--so why don't Christians believe him?

This is shameful, to make women continue as a child under her own male child. He grows up but she never does.

A slave could become free but never a woman. Under this religion, under this kind of control, a woman never gets to have freedom.

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My Mom is in the hospital

by JeffT in

jw
friends

my mother broke her hip last week.

she had an emergency partial replacement surgery friday night.

we don't know how she did it as we have caregivers with her at all times, she may have fallen while in the bathroom for a few minutes.

humbled

Hey, Jeff,

How old is your mom? Is she easy to talk to?

Yes, things can happen so quickly. If she doesn't like her caregivers "shadowing" her ---as when in the bathroom---things happen. I care for a woman with advanced Altheimer's 2x a week. It is a challenge. Some mornings or some days she isn't steady on her feet as at other times. I am careful that her shoes fit properly. Also they put a little rug in the kitchen that I think she has trouble with--so I tell them. But I am not the only one taking care of her. It's a patchwork of care.

It is true that time and unforeseen events do befall us. But we try to take care of each other--she will know you love her. That is always the greatest thing.

Take care,

Maeve

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