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  I have made my decision

  by Brother Mike in

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  i'm sure most of you have read bits and pieces of my story throughout the last year being on this site.

  i've decided as a human being, and as an adult, i'm going to make the decision on whether to stay with the jw religion or leave it.

  i of course have many doubts about the organization which has lead me to do research.

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  humbled

  Good for you--big change since your first posts!

  You were really depressed at your discovery of the WT being not, well, TRUE.

  Glad you are getting on with living.

  maeve
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  Don't Expect This Site To Change Anybody's Religious Opinion

  by minimus in

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  just sayin.

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  humbled

  That is an interesting statement, minimus. Because I have changed since I came on this site--largely because of the thoughts that I have had (sometimes secretly) as a result of conversations with others right on this board.

  But the first thing I needed on this board was a refuge from the WT experience. It was a relief to find others had seen what I had seen--False religion.

  and eventually, the question in my own mind became--what religion is not false. Discussions &research. Thinking

  and soon after that, what sources of the bible were true. Discussions & research. Thinking

  and then, could it be that my experiences of god in my own life were delusions?Thinking, Thinking. Discussion. Reading. Thinking.

  and did I care whether or not Jesus may have been a delusional man caught in a false religion that he saw crushing poor people? And I decided I understood that, that whatever was or was not true of the carpenter, I had learned a lot of good from that story--minus the stinking, silly stories that people fight about.

  The way this site helped change my religious opinion was not by force--that is true. It happened when I had to make myself answer questions that I had not let myself honestly look at.

  This site will not do a thing to our religious opinions if we do understand why we answer as we do.

  I was afraid to answer --first to myself and then to others. Oddly, the first comfort I took was from the kind of guy I believed Jesus was-- He was kind and brave. I wanted to rely on his teaching that we should be honest and not be afraid of bullshit fear tactics.

  I also wanted to be free to finally act on whatever power I possessed after the learned helplessness of religion and being a kinda poor-gettin'old-lady.

  One thing for sure, this site is no good when we just throw our religious view AT somebody. and the most effective way for others to think is just to lay the case out there --encourage honest conversation--(which some people are cagey about when they can see that their answers are not going to build a strong logical platform for their views.) But that is where it has to rest.

  We will change on our own if we will change at all--but this site, at its best helps us in our search for answers to our questions--when we are not afraid to ask them.

  Take care, minimus
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  Ex-Jehovah's Witness success story

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  this was just posted to facebook.

  https://www.facebook.com/groups/xjwrg3/10152073176825835/?comment_id=10152073536380835&notif_t=group_comment_reply.

  by christina jones.

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  humbled

  This made my eyes and heart burn too. Good woman, good job!

  when all your sources come from one place--watch out!

  and ESPECIALLY when they say "But it's in the BIBLE"

  And GOD wrote that?
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  Question

  by Terry in

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  i'm writing a science-fiction novel which takes place on--where else?

  it will contain allegorical allusions to the watch tower.. .

  do you think you'd be interested in it if i publish it?.

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  humbled

  Though I am not a sci-fi fan I REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD DO THIS BOOK.

  The best way to convey the complex reality of the corruption of a system is by a story that they only expect to entertain--not instruct them. It takes too much energy to explain the need to become informed of , say, the WT rotten tree/rotten fruit. Stories/parables come in sideways and invite deeper consideration of a matter for people that do not even want to listen.

  To use a familiar example--the bible's story of a wealthy man taking his neighbor's only pet lamb to butcher for his own feast allowed David to freely examine the crime he had committed against another man--stealing a soldier's wife and having sex with her--(and killing the man) as though he did not have many, many wives "at his disposal".

  Fiction often tells the truth in a more consumable form.
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  W. C. Fields

  by glenster in

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  includes some less often seen silents.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/w._c._fields.

  sally of the sawdust 1920. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-jbifbojjq.

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  humbled

  Glenster.

  many's the time I have thought of the WTBTS being Fields in a famous golf scene (can't remember the film).

  Fields' is irritated by his caddy for standing in the wrong place. The caddy explains "But you told me to stand here,sir." Field explodes "DON'T tell me where I told you to stand, you stand where I TELL YOU!"

  Maeve
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  I have an honest question!

  by FL_Panthers in

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  it's with regards to disfellowshipping.. is disfellowshipping a legal procedure?

  like is there something i can use to prevent this from happening to me if it does happen.. no jokes about me being a bad little boy.

  i need honest answers to this.

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  humbled

  Ha Ha---yes, idiotically. for smoking.

  You live free and take the consequences even if you fade.
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  What was the most rebellious thing you did while you were a devout jw?

  by DuvanMuvan in

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  i was just thinking about how humans being imperfect and satan's influence was the root of everything bad that anyone has ever done.

  well i know that apparently everyone is vulnerable which got me thinking about what "bad" things people have done while they were a jw.

  i'll start it off.

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  humbled

  scarred for life,

  The road not travelled?

  What a great story. Thanks for that.
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  I'm going back.

  by dazed but not confused in

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  to hawaii!!

  what were you thinking?.

  ive been to the big island twice when i was a 11 and 13. my sister lived there and flew me out.

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  humbled

  Not nice--I didn't have my coffee yet.

  Hawaii!
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  I'm going back.

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. jw
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  to hawaii!!

  what were you thinking?.

  ive been to the big island twice when i was a 11 and 13. my sister lived there and flew me out.

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  humbled

  Not nice--I didn't have my coffee yet.

  Hawaii!
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  Finally free of JWs!

  by Julia Orwell in

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  we moved house and no active jw knows we live there.

  it's in another congregation territory too so when they finally come knocking, they won't know i'm a dirty apostate when i tell them to put me on the do not call list.

  problem is, the local discount supermarket across the highway is frequented by jws from my previous previous congregation!.

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  humbled

  Your story from long time back til now has made me feel sort of ...happy. Lots of tough obstacles. I like thinking of you and your husband in your house, you home, Julia.

  It is great to here your life is going over around and through the obstacles. Home.

  You sound so happy. I'm glad for you and your husband--and Birds?

  Maeve

  w

  thanks